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Freda Wallace on now

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/09/2023 20:18

Isla Mac is hosting Freda on twitter live now (8pm)

Freda's been on for 5 mins and is already breaking the rules. Sarah Philamore is speaking sense. These two things might be linked.

Good luck, Freda. You might need it.

https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1RDGllEZMBmGL?s=20

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Lookforthejoy · 26/09/2023 13:56

Reading this thread, but not having listened yet, I do wonder whether Freda has an under-developed Theory of Mind where Freda is unable to understand that just because someone says something to or about Freda doesn't necessarily mean that all those people mean it and believe it. You'd have to understand this first to even proceed to consider what those reasons might possibly be.

Cerealforever · 26/09/2023 12:31

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Cerealforever · 26/09/2023 12:27

Only five mins in, but what nonsense! Made up, self justifying, self deluding nonsense.

itsmylife7 · 26/09/2023 11:40

ILikeDungs · 26/09/2023 09:02

I get a sign-in redirect with the link, can't listen!

You really didn't miss much. This Freda was talking absolute rubbish and I felt embarrassed for Freda. The other debaters against Freda were amazing.

Helleofabore · 26/09/2023 11:39

I agree stealth

The twists and turns to get the linguist outcome is really scarily fascinating.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 26/09/2023 11:16

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Helleofabore · 26/09/2023 11:00

FUCK! I am listening to Wallace telling the world that sending a pic that implies someone fellating another person is just part of what you should expect if you are on twitter. That tagging someone into such an image is just normal.

Helleofabore · 26/09/2023 10:29

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It is likely... there is photographic evidence of those who seem to want to fulfil the 'suck trans dick' mantra.

I got to the part where Wallace declared that in the Irish pub a bloke asked if Wallace had a penis and if the breasts were real and Wallace considered that to be misogyny because Wallace assumed that bloke thought Wallace was a woman. errrrr... no. It is the exact opposite. But that twitter space was a great view into the machinations of Wallace's mind and how they view so much.

AlisonDonut · 26/09/2023 10:23

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 26/09/2023 10:11

Also, the men had been told to stop talking about Henrietta who wasn't, for obvious reasons, part of the chat. They ignored that, 2 of them just stomped their metaphorical white steeds around and one of them goaded.

I think Isla did a good job, but next time I'd have more than one admin. I'll volunteer to do the mute button.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 26/09/2023 10:09

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JoandArcFeminist · 26/09/2023 09:53

Omg Sarah is blistering. Inspiring and a bit anxiety inducing!

This was such a rubbish chat sadly as is got a bit in the weeds with the speakers' past dealings , and Freida played it very very cool wrt tone which I know TRAs will view Sarah harshly for.

Helleofabore · 26/09/2023 09:40

I will say though, that that was a brave thing for Wallace to agree to do.

more of that

letthemspeak

Helleofabore · 26/09/2023 09:14

Crikey! Wallace is stuck on ‘people see me as a woman therefore I am’. There is no understanding how it is all about the gender stereotyping.

Wallace is so much DARVO.

Said ‘people are hardwired to accept that they are women’ then brought out all these examples of where people don’t accept it. And complained about having to keep explaining that they are women… so… no. A few people are accepting but it is certainly not universal as Wallace wants people to believe. Wallace’s own arguments are built on over exaggerated claims.

ILikeDungs · 26/09/2023 09:02

itsmylife7 · 25/09/2023 20:23

listening too.
you dont need to be signed up to twitter to listen

I get a sign-in redirect with the link, can't listen!

Helleofabore · 26/09/2023 08:59

They temporarily muted Freda after the second interruption.

crumpet · 26/09/2023 08:53

I wasn’t sure why Freda wasn’t muted so that no interruptions could be made until the speaker had finished

AlisonDonut · 26/09/2023 08:53

I love Sarah Philamore so much.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 26/09/2023 08:43

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FarEast · 26/09/2023 05:27

Freda not prepared to listen to women.

FarEast · 26/09/2023 05:16

It’s really notable how reluctant Freda Wallace is to accept women’s statements. Freda Wallace keeps on questioning or denying women’s statements and experiences. Gaslighting and denying.

Toseland · 26/09/2023 00:11

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Woman2023 · 25/09/2023 23:01

I think my favourite comment from Freda was about being amongst terfs at some event and it being a bit like going into a pub and realising it's full of the opposing team.

That well known female experience. 😂

<obviously there are female football fans, but it just seemed such a brilliantly stereotypically male example to pick>