Eternal reunion collapses after disagreements over playing Pride.

Back to the Bennett sisters, one half of Eternal having an absolutely reasonable political conscience and making a stand on it which is also entirely reasonable - Louise (and Kellie who seems mysteriously not being quoted to the press?) is coming off like a total shitehawk

Insinuating homophobia is not a good look especially at people who are genuinely trying to comment reasonably and respectfully on the appropriation of the gay and lesbian community by a group of people whose politics IS homophobic.

Genderism denies same sex attraction. I’m really happy the Bennett sisters are standing up for women’s and kids’ rights and hope they will keep carrying on

Fancy calling two women bigots for stating their views that sex should be prioritised over gender in law and policies! And for supporting views that have now been reviewed by the charity commission as valid and lawful so that they can hold charitable status in organisations such as the LGB Alliance!

I’m saying that I don’t believe them.

* The girls have played numerous LGBTQI venues their entire careers and have been inspired by the love and acceptance they have received'*

They didn’t play any or many as I recall.

Well, it is perfectly clear that there are posters on this thread who believe that declining to perform at an event based on your support of the people of the lesbian, gay and bisexual sexual orientations who feel that their movement for achieving their own political aims have been overwhelmed by trans activists is bigotry. paranoidnamechanger is just one of them.

Let's face it. The complete lack of symmetry around their decision is also very clear. Fancy calling two women bigots for stating their views that sex should be prioritised over gender in law and policies! And for supporting views that have now been reviewed by the charity commission as valid and lawful so that they can hold charitable status in organisations such as the LGB Alliance!

Do those labelling these women bigots know the meaning of the word?

It's more a general question paranoid. That's my concern and I want to know why that makes me a bigot.

was trying to write ‘expected and often enforced’

Of course Pride isn’t for kids. It’s not meant to be. Any corporate pinkwashing that suggests it’s a nice family day out is completely missing the whole point of it. If men want to simulate sex at Pride have at it. No problem with that. Don’t go if it s not for you.

I do feel offended at the expected and of herb enforced denial of same sex attraction AT PRIDE )and everywhere else) though in order to suit a genderist agenda. That is actually obscene given the history of the struggle for gay rights

What part of "she is being vilified for making statements about two women without their consent, disregarding their right to privacy and putting their personal safety in jeopardy by sharing her interpretation of their views with a group of unhinged, violent misogynists" do you not understand?

Quite @MargotBamborough

If people had stuck to sharing their own views rather than dropping two people who had chosen to remain silent in it with a group of rabid misogynists then there would be no issue.

Everyone is entitled to their views.

But if you are going to put someone else’s words out there for all to see, you should do them the courtesy of quoting what they actually said - not just a frothy sound bite.

I have been to a Pride parade (London) - once - and made a note to NEVER take a child to any of them in the future. The one I attended had men simulating sex on top of a bus. And this wasn't an isolated case. I had expected to see thi gs that would have highlighted LGBTQ+ rights and struggles, which many people are on board with, but that kind of thing, no wonder support is waning.

Come on, are you really that naive? Why do you think Vernie sent that nauseatingly ‘nice’ post in Insta when she could have posted the email instead?

Everyone had their own views. No-one is wrong here.

Why are you a bigot if you have concerns about Pride being hijacked by a movement which is actively harming women and kids?

I'd love an actual, specific answer to this.

The fact remains that the duo said they would only do the Eternal reunion if no Pride or LGBTQ+ festivals were included.

That may well be the case. The actual reason has been conveniently left out though.

Funny that.

On what I referred to above.

Louise’s manager says this:

The fact remains that the duo said they would only do the Eternal reunion if no Pride or LGBTQ+ festivals were included.

Which I’m inclined to believe. I don’t know why Louise is being vilified on here, it’s the Bennett sisters who’re being bigoted. I wonder if Saint Vernie will publish the email? I won’t be holding my breath.

Well that made it crystal clear.

How odd that Louise left the pertinent details of the concerns out of her statement.

Nothing self serving and inflammatory about the Bennett/Ingoldsby statements. Louise’s statement however…?

Louise should be thoroughly ashamed of herself.

This is about the debate about the trans lobby and the erosion of the rights of women and children. Vernie said she had some concerns about the Pride movement being hijacked - and she is not alone - but this has now been weaponized against her, with Louise’s team trying to get her cancelled. The fact that the public statements by Louise’s team conveniently failed to acknowledge these concerns...once again shows how women are being excluded from the conversation.

Very clear.