Article in The Irish Independent - Leading clinician warns of HSE gender care ‘dangers’.

The reply is on the wrong thread. The quoted text refers to Graham Linehan, and the original message is here.

The quoted bit is by which poster? And who is it referring to? Did the post get deleted as I can’t see it?

Yes. I had watched the newsnight Tavistock programme, and read about David Bell at the time- but had no idea about the service in Ireland. O'Shea and Moran had also been raising concerns since 2018!
It certainly is one of the most damning chapters- I agree.

That chapter was so fascinating and damning. I'd challenge anyone to read that chapter and still deny that there is a problem.

Yes, she spoke to Donal O'Shea and Paul Moran, another senior clinician who has also been attempting to raise the alarm in Ireland.

Yes it is Signalbox. I'm just reading that chapter in the book right now!

Was this the same guy that featured in Hannah Barnes' book?

Also, a direct link to the Newstalk Breakfast segment with Donal O'Shea last Monday:

https://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/highlights-from-newstalk-breakfast/doctors-concerns-at-irelands-adult-national-gender-service

And a partial transcript:

https://www.newstalk.com/news/ideology-cannot-direct-clinical-care-concerns-over-national-gender-service-1509219

Mick Clifford has a column on this subject in today's Irish Examiner. But will he investigate further, or just wring his hands?

Mick Clifford: Concerns over gender service are being ignored

Why would any sitting politician want to admit that the law that was passed have allowed male violent sex offenders be housed into the womens prison system.
Each time the court sent a male with a GRC to the womens prison it was recorded in the Dail Record.

Or venture into the poisoned chalice of the HSE whos main purpose was to move responsibilty out of the dep of health
Its much easier (provision or settlements with NDA) and "cheaper" to allow the HSE fund EU provision than debate the importance of niche areas of healthcare than argue for better funding and filling a clinical role.

None of them have a hope of convincing the majority that letting boys and men into spaces allocated to girls and women. However the "progressive" state funded NGO's will spin it as anti and hateful etc and the other big corporate backers are US centered if not US HQed companies all pushing the agenda as a good thing.

There is a whole lot of Irish Women who have been brought up on the idea that they are the exact same as a man and that having babies is an "problem" (the mother and baby homes and lack of birth control etc left a mark).
So a politician standing up and stating that TWANW because of sex difference opens up a whole discussion around biology, babies and the seocieoeconomic benefits of women having babies. So thats not a vote winner either.

Newspapers will make more money having a go at the politician than the employees trying to steer through the personal career risk of being labled "far-right" or ( horror of horror) having christian values

I listened to Prof. O'Shea's interview with Ciara Kelly. He stated in the interview that he has spoken to political party leaders who admitted being afraid to speak out for fear of being cancelled. That is an extraordinary admission for any politician to make and it is shocking that it hasn't been picked up by other journalists.

Good to hear, elgreco.

Heard brief but very important mention that the government should listen to such an expert. Both Ciara and Shane agreed. Small but very important steps.

Thanks for those links. All very scary😕

Lacey is an unqualified grifter. I first encountered Lacey on the bill for NWCI-organised FemFest addressing girls and women aged 16-23 about feminist issues. What I want to say would get deleted.

Every candidate will claim they want to sort potholes, housing, the local hospital etc.

Not every candidate will be able to give a straight A to a straight Q on gender and women's rights.

Not every candidate will deserve my vote.

Mary Butler (Fianna Fáil) is Minister of state for Mental Health in Ireland. She has a child she considers to be trans and has discussed this in various media outlets and promoted the medicalisation model. She has also promoted GenderGP (one doctor struck off and one suspended). Shades of Craggy Island really!

The HSE is following the directions of the politicians we vote in. So what to do in the next election? Personally, I will be voting according to what each candidate states about women’s rights and transgender ideology. This may make for some uncomfortable choices.

The herd got criticised when it was the working classes and "unwashed masses" who voted for Brexit.

But watching the most educated and highly promoted in society herding over TRA to literally wave on unproven teen medicalisation (this specialist amongst others, an exception) is a truly scary sight. The intelligence and other worldly hardened self belief makes this a stampede that's trampled everything in its way.

If the herd is going to veer off, lose direction, disperse and break up, it needs more and more highly qualified and at the coal face experienced specialists to tell the public of the absolute horrors.

This is how it'll happen.

Thank God for Donal O'Shea. He's a great man for telling people the truths they prefer not to hear. And it's great to see this in the SIndo, where "real" people will get to read about it.

'O’Shea and Moran said they are shocked that the new job specification does not require a candidate to have clinical experience in transgender healthcare like clinical lead requirements do in other specialities.
A candidate must only have a “special interest in transgender care” and experience of “working with transgender and/or gender-incongruent or dysphoric populations”.
O’Shea said he is well-qualified for the transgender clinical lead role, but believes the HSE wants someone else.
“They don’t want us involved because we wouldn’t do it the activist way,” he said.'

Madness.

I am SO grateful for clinicians and HCPs like O'Shea who speak up to protect children and young people. At the very likely risk of loss of their career. Heroes.

'“It’s more important to speak out when there is a culture in an organisation that is prepared to lie, intimidate, mislead and [use] funds to put vulnerable individuals at incredible risk,” he said.'

100%. Thank you.

The HSE is a bit of a shambles when it comes to this.
Lost meeting notes, undocumented decisions taken by unknown people and not a squeek or push back from the people who should be asking questions. And the public purse will be expected to fund the States legal defence and any compensation.

Instructing staff to deal with an organisation which has been excluded on staff welfare grounds due to bullying and intimidation of employees. Well there is no issue there that HR should be working to avoid

No service legel agreements for quality control of a recomended service provider.
Or will the State claim that it has only paid for the service and not approved of the level of care? It did not work for the cervical errors so has little hope of sucess here either.

it would be better to build a team out from the existing adult service and go with the HSE (reasoning for closing services in local hospitals) centers of excellence than try to create a Clinical Lead / Director of places to go out of State for medical care

The HSE board and legal are not doing their jobs.