One in ten men have carried out sex offences against children

If they could get away with it!

So the only thing stopping him / them is the repercussions for themselves, not the victims.

@Iwasafool I bet he was, that’s absolutely vile!

You see I have a big issue with the idea ‘it’s a minority of men’.

First because it seems to say that it’s not such a huge issue as it affects so few men. So no need to make effort in changing the general attitude/culture within.

Second, it denies the reality for women (and men) when 1 out of 4 GIRLS have been sexually assaulted.

Men should be horrified at those stats. Men should be all over telling other men that that sort of behaviour disgusting.
But it’s not all men…. So they can happily wash their hands of it.

Just like so many are happy to shame Rape victims and defend RB atm.

I also worked for the police years ago and l was horrified by the amount of child sexual abuse cases. This is why l raised my kids on my own after husband died, it's too high risk.

It's a crime of opportunity. That's why familial sexual abuse is believed to be more common in families in crowded housing (although an alternative explanation would be that middle-class families are more adept at evading police/SS attention).

The internet is the greatest opportunity for abusers of all time.

Sorry to be pedantic, but it's important as it affects the stats. In academic research, "paedophilia" usually means attraction to pre-pubescent children. Hebephilia means attraction to children of the age of puberty.

This makes it important to understand the frame of reference when comparing studies/prevalence.

I think you are right.

I suspect that "1 in every 10" is a statistical average based on the number of victims, not the number of abusers caught.

I've seen 'Clockwise' and I think it's reflective of the social values of that era. Times have moved on, but I am still convinced that nothing much has changed, it's just moved onto the Internet. I can easily believe that 1 in 10 men fantasize about children and some go on to molesting them, but that still means that 90% of men don't.
Before anyone jumps, no, I don't think that 1 in 10 is acceptable.

An old “friend” had been found guilty of pedophilia. Many of us cut him straight out but there were some excusing him because the girl was 15 so it’s not like she was young. He was over 40!!!

Anyway...

Whatever the number, I am glad to see some research focusing on the offenders.

We always talk about sexual abuse, rape, domestic violence and sex trafficking in terms of victims and numbers of offences committed but hardly ever in terms of offenders...

Everyone knows the stats on domestic abuse victims...but what about how many men (and women) have committed domestic abuse?

Sex trafficking discussion focuses on the crime gangs and pretty much ignores the fact that it only happens because men have created a massive market for it.

I believe this prevents us from fully addressing the problems simply because it's too 'awkward' to realise the truth of how many 'normal men' are involved in various types of crime against women and children.

I think 1 in 10 a huge under estimation as 1 in 4 children experience sexual abuse, most of it perpetrated by men

People think I'm crazy and borderline abusive for not letting my infant daughter wear scanty clothes. But a lot of men are absolute beasts. I've always known it.

I'm trying to find a digestible summary and I'm going from memory so may be incorrect but sometimes studies talking about pedophilia can underestimate the prevalence...

Strictly speaking pedophiles are exclusively or primarily sexually attracted to children under 16 whereas most sex offences are carried out by men who are primarily attracted to adults but will abuse a child if the opportunity arises.

I remember a couple of scary things I have read about on here that may back up this survey.

One was a survey (I think it may have been on students) that asked men if they would rape a woman if they thought they would definitely get away with it. Shockingly one in five men said yes.

And the other sad fact that has stuck in my brain was from when that poor 14 year old girl was gang raped in the US and one of the rapists filmed it and put it on Pornhub. Even though she was a child and it was clearly rape, she couldn't get Pornhub to take it down.

But even more disturbing than that, it was one of the most popular things to watch on Pornhub for ages and I think they estimated that one in five men in the US actively searched for it.

It may have these figures slightly wrong, but it all points to a depressing number of men being unsafe.

I wouldn't even bother with this - the sample isn't randomised nor normalised and it should be checked against population norms (it doesn't appear to be).

Given the subject the respondents will be far more likely to be involved or interested in the subject which will mean a higher "yes" rate response. People who have not been involved in the subject (so potential "no" respondents) won't have been attracted to answer the online survey.

So the TLDR; it's a biased sample.

Of course, there are women offenders and prolific repeat offenders but 60% are by someone trusted by the family and my experience at Rape Crisis is that the number that fit the profile of a prolific offender were significantly outweighed by those where the offender likely had 1 or 2 victims.

Can completely imagine this. The man I know who was convicted of possession csa images and one count of making did not go to prison. wealthy professional in the nhs.

Judging by the number of men who would leer at my DD from when she was around 12 to her current age of 17, this doesn't surprise me.

I couldn't imagine many women walking down the road openly gawping at boys of the same age.

I also think we really need to define "children". Because I definitely do think a 30 year old with a 16 year old is terrible and it infuriates me when it's normalised, but it's a completely different crime to a 45 year old touching a six year old.

This study claims 1:35 men have a sexual interest in children though. Quite a difference from 1:10 (though still far too high).

Here's a Full Fact article...

It's not outside the previous research shown here...

4-13% of men have sexual fantasies about children

A massive range of 0.04% - 5% have had some kind of sexual contact, so this study matches the higher range.

I can't believe 0.04% could be correct when 1 in 10 children is abused...

fullfact.org/crime/how-many-men-have-sexual-interest-children/#:~:text=This%20study%20said%20previous%20research,for%20child%2Drelated%20sexual%20fantasies.

I'm not sure this "survey" and corresponding articles have laid this information out in a truthful manner. This actually is more damaging, as it's almost normalising and excusing real child abuse for the problem that it is, by making people feel like "oh it's actually quite normal for grown men to be attracted to young children, the statistics prove that", because that really isn't the case. Child abuse and peadophilia are NOT normal, and shouldn't ever be minimised, by making it seem like it's something that "just happens", and acceptable in any circumstances.

Exactly.

I agree. It doesn't even say what age is being defined as a child. Is it under 18, in which case would having sex with a 17 year old (even if the responder was also 17 at that time) count as sexual contact with a child?
Even if it's defining a child as under 16, a 16 year old having sex with a 15 year old would count. And while you can argue that's too young to have sex, it doesn't automatically make the 16 year old an awful predator.

Without definitions it's a bit meaningless.

Correcting myself here - the 1 in 5 stat is abuse of women and girls.

It is estimated to be somewhere around 1 in 10 to 1 in 20 children that are sexually abused.

Obvs this doesn't reflect the sex offences carried out against children by viewing child abuse online.