Close to 100 Canadian cities set to march against sexual indoctrination of kids in schools

Again, at best it was incompetence and ignorance which in no way can be considered an accident and a damning indictment on all MPs.

Do you think they were sneakily trying to infiltrate a Nazi, though? That seems like a major miscalculation. Which is to say, an accident, not the point of the thing.

Of course there was - at minimum it was to score political points for funds for Ukraine

That is all certainly true. It's very sloppy.

I don't really see there being an agenda in this instance though, there wasn't a lobby group trying to score political points or anything like that.

This is the problem - they take information given them by lobbyists and ideologues at face value. Too often they are lacking any curiosity about anything a lobbyist categorises as ‘bad’ then squeal ‘it was an accident’ or ‘it was somebody else’s fault’ when they get caught out, or DARVO and claim to be bullied when criticised. The Scottish Government emulates Canada’s in more ways than one.

Sorry, maybe I should have ended my post with (sarcasm).

Really think social services need to be brought in to make sure your children are safe if you think this man teaching children is normal. https://nypost.com/2023/04/14/canadian-trans-teacher-kayla-lemieux-seen-without-z-cup-prosthetics/

I think you are overestimating the educational attainments of a great many MPs.

You only need a few people in charge to over-look doing their research on something like this. All the rest assume it's been done and clap when they are supposed to.

The tendency to black and white thinking doesn't help, the Ukrainian War now falls into the category of good, so many will just accept anything coming from that direction is also good.

It's not just gender ideology that the Canadian public (and state) is gullible about.

Ha when the middle class support an actual nazi it's an accident.
Nope no classism at all.

The statement ‘fought against the Russians in WWII’ should have been plenty to make them stop and think whose side he was fighting on. How much else do they lap up without thinking about what they are being told?

You don’t invite a 98 year old WWII SS veteran by accident, then accidentally make a statement honouring him. Nor do you accidentally give him a standing ovation. At the very least it shows a profound lack of critical thinking and by the Canadian parliament, group think in their behaviour plus a lack of knowledge of history. At worst it is a rewriting of history and a acceptance of nazism. Neither should have a place in a democratic parliament.

Yes that was crazy. Big questions being asked around vetting and security I’d hope now. Especially embarrassing and damaging because Zelenskyy was there.

I think this was really an accident. Stupid of them perhaps, but they did not realize who he was.

Talking of Nazis, the Canadian Government gave a Nazi - yes an actually Nazi who had sworn allegiance to Hilter and a member of the Waffen SS - a standing ovation in parliament:

https://x.com/UnityNewsNet/status/1705841969845403788?s=20

I'm so glad that these protests were purely the result of a coalition of anti-federalists, homophobes, fundamentalist Christians, fundamentalist Muslims and racists and didn't reflect the views of the vast majority of Canadians who are totally OK with the reasonable changes around gender that have been implemented.

Just to help me make sure that I fully understand, could you tell me what the difference between a fundamentalist Christian and a common-or-garden Christian is and the same for Muslims?

That's not actually how the system is meant to work - it's not, an election every four years and the PM can do whatever in between. The government not sitting is serious. The media not questioning the government is serious. MPs not raising questions is really serious. Suspending civil liberties is really serious, and needs to be done with the scrutiny of Parliament.

It is interesting to consider the issues around which people come together, from quite diverse sections of society. If we could acknowledge these issues and discuss them openly - then perhaps there might more chance for unity and for the coming together around shared values - which, after all, is what makes for a stable society.

I'm still getting to grips with a lot of the things going on re all of this. Is the term 'squirrel' right?
As in parents expressing concerns and along comes 'LOOK!! It's all Nazis that are doing it!' It's evil to be right wing, now I've called you right wing, you'll do what I want won't you'

As well, there was an actual general election in the Fall of 2021, so I think that counted as a way ‘the normal ways citizens might challenge government decisions in a democracy’ could have been done.

True North and rebel news are both right wing media here, the Canadian version of Fox maybe? But with obviously a much smaller reach. Very anti -Trudeau regardless of what he’s done. Pro- gun /anti climate change / anti covid protections (long gone by now) etc. I’m not a fan of either, but some of the denialism re: residential schools on, especially rebel news, is very sad.

Every country was restricting movement at the time. Provincial mandates were about to be lifted /changed. The people involved with the organizing were just very anti (this particular) federal government, and having failed at their ‘wexit’ and anti-UN yellow vest rubbish, locked onto this as their protest.
Bringing it back to this particular protest, some of the same people were involved- they aren’t hiding their homophobic views. The only thing which is a bit surprising, to me, is that fundamentalist Christians have joined forces with fundamentalist Muslims in this particular instance /for this March.
it just feels odd, considering the Islamophobic rants we saw from some of the convoy organizers.

Yes, there was some chatter about this. If you recall, it was very much about what possible avenues there could be to deal with a government who had, arguably, suspended many basic civil liberties, with no end in sight.

It is, theoretically, a possible tole of the GG to respond in that kind of situation.

Overblown in this instance? Quite possibly. But it very much speaks to the kind of frustration that many people had with a government that was restricting movement, freedom of association, and a media that was refusing to question any of it.

And to maybe put this in context for those outside of Canada, there were significant interruptions in the House sitting during covid. Really an unprecedented level of centralizing of power in the PMs office. In my province, the legislature did not sit for over a year.

All of which is to say, the normal ways citizens might challenge government decisions in a democracy were suppressed, so perhaps it should be no surprise that frustrated people were discussing what other options might exist within the law, even if they were far-fetched.

If by "traditional christian teachings on sex" you mean teaching kids that it's wrong to be gay then yah it kind of does.