Canadian politicians finally backing down on blindly supporting LGBT+ policies

Part of the probem though is this kind of ideological material being in schools predates the gender ideology issues we are having now.

Previously, it was a smaller number of people who objected to the social justice efforts in the schools, because they were more in line with what most people thought themselves. But there were certainly people who felt that it was stepping into areas around values and religion that properly should be up to parents to pass on.

But almost entirely the left and progressives were ok with this, because they were values they liked.

I quite agree, MapleTerf.

Toronto Sun reports:

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/parents-demanding-a-say-on-education-and-gender-isnt-radical

'In most classrooms today, students are taught that there are multiple genders, that gender is fluid rather than something you are born with, but that’s not how most Canadians see things. A survey on this issue by the Angus Reid Institute finds that 56% of Canadians believe there are just two genders, 34% say that is too limiting and 10% say they aren’t sure or can’t say.

Yet, 100% of our public schools teach children from a young age that gender is fluid, you can change it and that gender is in fact a social construct.

This change happened without consulting parents, and it happened without debate.

Now, parents are pushing back, demanding to have a say in how their children are educated, and the establishment is telling them no'

The new caste system in perfect focus. The media, individual organisations, their managers chasing the $, senior "journalists" grown fat in their job, up and coming "journalists" happy to fit in or determined to push the transphobic parents lie.

We see those we rely upon to hold those in power to account, those whom seeking truth should be their only concern, are more comfortable to taking their places in this new "high worth/concept" caste system.

This'll help with sunlight.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1704747213736292828

Yes, it's identifying 'genderism' as a belief/ideology that we are not all in agreement with and don't all share, that I think is critical.

It has been handed down as a decree that nobody can question.

That can't stand.

That was interesting. The way he spoke.

'There is a line drawn around children. Ideologies should be taught at home. Our children are young, I am young, I have the rest of my life to fight for this.'

So basically hands off my kids, this is my job, not yours, and I'm not going anywhere.

The interesting bit, to me, was him saying ideologies should be taught at home.

I'd like to see the state, or the opposition, structure a counter argument around that.

Freedom of belief and freedom of speech is at the very root of it. I'd like to see them say, out loud, that parents specifically. shouldn't have it.

Also, despite the absolutely industrial whitewashing of this ideology, people still see it motivated by sex.

And the ratios on these posts are interesting.

https://twitter.com/globeandmail/status/1704509364898349084

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1704624860536648183

The proportion of "Likes" to "Views" on Trudeau's tweet is telling.

Surely someone close to him politically is having a word in his shell-like? Or is this par for the course with reaction to Trudeau's batshit gaslighting pronouncements?

"Let me make one thing very clear: Transphobia, homophobia, and biphobia have no place in this country. We strongly condemn this hate and its manifestations, and we stand united in support of 2SLGBTQI+ Canadians across the country – you are valid and you are valued."

Currently:
Views = 10,800,000
Likes = 69,500

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1704554429746397458

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You said what I was thinking in a far more elegant and concise way! I agree and it’s a worrying trend for western democratic societies in general as it’s not just this issue which is being used to do the undermining.

I’d be surprised if there was a huge difference between Toronto and Ottawa in terms of the public feeling on this issue, but I don’t know much about culture and politics in Canadian cities so maybe some Canadian MNers will have some insight on this.

Interesting to hear different versions of how many people from each ‘side’ attended the marches. Rowan Jette Knox had this to say about the turnout in Toronto.

Yes, it's a dangerous game. Undermining faith and trust in the media and government is not a way to foster a healthy democracy.

Don’t the media and politicians realise that once the majority of the population realise the emperor has no clothes on, then they lose whatever credibility they have remaining? If they can’t be trusted to state and report basic facts, then why would anyone trust them with the more complex issues? And then once people start looking for alternative sources of information they enter the Wild West of social media and all bets are off…

It’s not just Canada obviously, but that statement from Trudeau missed the point in an astounding fashion.

Gosh other than the headline about it being about LBGTQA rights (which it isn't), that is quite balanced.

Just so frightening how Canada has sought to control its population by making teachers have more power than parents and that it thinks that that is progressive.

State controlled children should be everyone's concern that's not a democratic position, at all.

This doesn't look so bad actually

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2265477187544

Yep.

You can fool some of the people, some of the time, but at a certain point people are going to ask, 'gosh, I wonder why quite so many parents seem to be suddenly fascists, that seems a bit odd', and then they will wonder what the fuss is about, and they will eventually work their way to 'why are these lying bastards lying to me'.

And here we are.

What the fuck is wrong with the politicians and the media that they are not seeing this?

Something along the lines of: It Is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something When His Salary Depends Upon His Not Understanding

So, the Canadian media is funded by the Canadian government, and if the CBC only reports on the counter-protesters, or films the Million March once most have dispersed, and it is a mouthpiece of the Canadian government...who is paying the politicians to look away?

I am absolutely incensed at the misrepresentation or lack of media coverage.
I looked up Canada news on the BBC and got Canada's Drag Race news - nothing about the march!
The media are leading, controlling and distorting the truth.

I see Jagmeet Singh chose the dumpster fire of siding with the Unions against parents over the dumpster fire of Trudeau's announcement yesterday about the Indian government, he needs to grow a spine.

Not likely. This is a man who cried on camera because someone said something mean in Parliament.

Oh, I agree.

I think a lot of these people in the marches are completely protected, mentally, against those kinds of accusations.

But I still worry. The town I work in is hardly the big city, it's a small, post-industrial town, with a high religious population, pretty conservative.

But many of the "regular" people, particularly those over about 45, still get the majority of their news from the mainstream media.

And they are not seeing the images of these protests, they are hearing "hate group," and most of them don't believe that these materials could actually be in schools. Because that would be crazy.

The CBC is being very canny in not showing how large these protests are.

It's maybe also significant that pretty much without exception, organizations for gay and lesbian people are taking the same line. And they are regarded as the "experts". Now, I have plenty of friends in that group who are seriously against all this stuff, but the fact is that most of them are completely disengaged from any kind of lgb groups and have been for many years. As far as the general public is concerned, these people don't exist.

The mainstream media are playing a dangerous game. By not covering this properly, they are giving the right wing a gift. I am so angry with the left.