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Womens Group hustings for Rutherglen & Hamilton West byelection cancelled

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ArabeIIaScott · 18/09/2023 21:26

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/rutherglen-hustings-venue-cancels-event-30969387

'A hustings to discuss issues relating to women's rights ahead of the Rutherglen and Hamilton West by-election has been cancelled after the venue cited the group failed to "present a balanced view to the local electorate".
Women Won't Wheesht (WWW) invited candidates to a public meeting at Number 18, a venue in Rutherglen. The group have been at the forefront of protests against the Scottish Government's Gender Recognition Reform (GRR) Bill that heads to court this week and have been unapologetic about their gender critical views, however they claim they are "a women's rights organisation and are politically non-partisan".'

'The venue in Rutherglen has been accused of 'unlawful discrimination' and the women's rights group say they will be seeking legal action'

Rutherglen Hustings venue cancels event over political views of feminist group

The venue in Rutherglen has been accused of 'unlawful discrimination' and the women's rights group say they will be seeking legal action

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/rutherglen-hustings-venue-cancels-event-30969387

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BezMills · 06/10/2023 10:02

The Tories historically have taken about 20% in Scotland, just that in Westminster FPTP they tend to get pure malkied in terms of seats.

SerendipityJane · 06/10/2023 09:43

Key takings

No one cares a toss for the Tories. No amount of Rish! spin can pull them out of their hole.

fromorbit · 06/10/2023 09:19

Full results. Tories were smashed a chunk of their vote went Labour . Collette from ISP who stood with women fully didn't do great sadly. The Greens/Lib dems also hammered.

Votes
Scottish Liberal Democrats (Gloria Adebo) - 895, 3% (-2.3)

Scottish Socialist Party (Bill Bonnar) - 271, 1%

Independent (Garry Cooke) - 6

Independent (Andrew Daly) - 81

Scottish Greens (Cameron Eadie) - 601, 2%

Independent (Prince Ankit Love, Emperor of India) - 34

Scottish Family Party (Niall Fraser) - 319, 1%

Volt UK (Ewan Hoyle) - 46

Scottish Conservatives (Thomas Kerr) - 1192, 4% (-11.1)

SNP (Katy Loudon) - 8399, 28% (-16.6)

Scottish Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition (Chris Sermanni) - 178, 1%

Scottish Labour (Michael Shanks) - 17,845, 58% (+24.1)

Reform UK (David Stark) - 403, 1%

Independence for Scotland Party (Colette Walker) - 207, 1%

Turnout
The turnout was 37.19%, with a total of 30,531 votes cast. That is down from 66.48% at the snap 2019 General Election, when 53,794 valid votes were cast.
Some 54 ballot papers were rejected.

Congrats to all the women who organised the hustings and also campaigned more widely and did the street stall. You are heroes and getting out there risking physical attack to get the truth out there is Amazing. Even the street stall was opposed though by bigots protesting against it on the other side of the street. Yet it was the women's stall that people liked.

https://twitter.com/GTFGla/status/1708057359761694744
Lots of awareness raised.

Key takings

1 SNP went all in on trans messaging while Lab downplayed their positioning. The SNP were badly damaged because most ordinary Scots know what a women is. SNP rebels on gender have a stronger position today as the SNP looks at what went wrong.

2 We need to up our game locally like those wonderful women who were active in Rutherglen raising awareness. In the 2024 general election we need to get people to admit their position on being either pro or anti-women rather than refuse to talk about it. That means way more demos and hustings etc. There was great coordination to get the truth told. More of this kind of thing. In the short term we may not change results, but long term it is vital because the bigots will not miss out on their chance to oppose women's rights and that shows people who they really are.

3 - The pro woman resistance inside Labour needs more support. They too are in a stronger position because it is clear that openly being anti women as the SNP tried is going to fail in elections. Expect lots of talk on this at Lab conference this weekend. However Labour's official dodgy evasive tactics like refusing to go to women's hustings but where they gain the benefit of SNP's unpopularity without fully rejecting the grounds of anti-woman ideas is a huge problem too. More sunlight is needed.

https://twitter.com/GTFGla/status/1708057359761694744

BezMills · 06/10/2023 09:12

Trying not to laugh at the Tories. "Hoy posh lad, ahv goat the zoo on the phone, I hear ye've lost yer monkey?"

ArabeIIaScott · 06/10/2023 08:54

Tories lost their deposit!

Glad the SNP got a demo of how fucking furious the country is with their shit.

Scottish Labour, however, are a macho boys club that will be no good for women.

The Greens are toast. Unfortunately our electoral system means we may get toast for government again ...

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 06/10/2023 08:40

The greens barely got any votes. Lib Dem’s too.

it’s going to be upsetting a lot of people

stealtheatingtunnocks · 06/10/2023 08:39

The guy who got in is one of the owned who didn tgo
to the hustings. Wild

BlackForestCake · 06/10/2023 07:59

I think there is about to be a big internal fight in the SNP.

The Greens will be in serious trouble if the SNP goes down. Nobody else will touch them.

You can expect carpetbaggers of all kinds to follow the gravy train and start moving back to Labour in time for the general election.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 06/10/2023 07:49

TWAW is just one of the many things the SNP are getting wrong, which includes being insanely arrogant and incompetent

As a pp says, I wonder if this will make them reflect? I’m going to guess no

Rainbowshit · 06/10/2023 07:38

Although I'm delighted the SNP got humped Michael Shanks is no better. He's all TWAW.

Waitwhat23 · 06/10/2023 07:11

Looks like the SNP have been spectacularly ousted from the seat.

You'd think they'd reflect on why. They won't though.

BezMills · 26/09/2023 05:14

ArabeIIaScott · 25/09/2023 22:15

MON JEAN FAE AIBERDEEN

Yes Jean!

ArabeIIaScott · 25/09/2023 22:15

MON JEAN FAE AIBERDEEN

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WomenWontWheesht · 25/09/2023 21:39

ArabeIIaScott · 25/09/2023 21:24

Are you no very big, and are you awful shy?

Jean From Aberdeen actually sang that Grin with her own words.

It'll be on Twitter/X soon.

ArabeIIaScott · 25/09/2023 21:24

WomenWontWheesht · 25/09/2023 19:34

We'll post it ASAP.

We're just back from an event on the Isle of Skye (it was a busy week)

But we'll get on it soon

Are you no very big, and are you awful shy?

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IcakethereforeIam · 25/09/2023 21:14

@WomenWontWheesht thank you 😊

I know where I'll get my next t-shirt from.

WomenWontWheesht · 25/09/2023 21:07

IcakethereforeIam · 25/09/2023 20:47

Do you get the profits from the merchandise sold on Amazon? If you don't it can be flagged in the reviews.

We don't.

It's such a well-known phrase & doesn't belong to us, it belongs to us all.

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 20:51

I feel the need to use my bigly letters....

WOMEN WON'T WHEESHT

Ooh that feels better.

As you were.

IcakethereforeIam · 25/09/2023 20:47

WomenWontWheesht · 25/09/2023 19:35

Oh, and we do have our own t shirts that are available via our website.

Do you get the profits from the merchandise sold on Amazon? If you don't it can be flagged in the reviews.

WomenWontWheesht · 25/09/2023 19:35

Oh, and we do have our own t shirts that are available via our website.

WomenWontWheesht · 25/09/2023 19:34

stealtheatingtunnocks · 23/09/2023 02:38

i saw on Twitter there is a recording, @WomenWontWheesht will you post it here when ready?

and the red bubble Etsy links, I like a t shirt.

We'll post it ASAP.

We're just back from an event on the Isle of Skye (it was a busy week)

But we'll get on it soon

SinnerBoy · 25/09/2023 16:53

Whilst it's disheartening to read that the hustings was cancelled, albeit briefly, it's cheering that such venues are given a crash course in well settled case law and behaving. And little Stonewall fists mashing tables, with floods of tears.

Best get the mop...

Boiledbeetle · 25/09/2023 15:31

Froodwithatowel · 25/09/2023 13:37

Emotional support ferret in hand.

😏

Froodwithatowel · 25/09/2023 14:34

BezMills · 25/09/2023 14:02

I'm hoping that is not a euphemism.

Sorry!

All I can say is that no one has tried that one yet in a court room. However I'm sure it's only a matter of time.