Double Murder Chelmsford

She's been sentenced today, minimum 36 years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgmglzvnl1yt

The murders took place in june 2019 so way before we heard any rumours about covid.

Huh? There's no BBC article in the thread

This is a very sad case. I don't live locally any more, but my father worked with this woman's father for many years. They knew each other well and my mum and dad both knew his wife too. We couldn't believe it when we first saw the news.

The daughter is definitely female and was always "troubled". I remember that they had a lot of issues with her when she was growing up. Never imagined for a moment that it would come to this, though. Utterly shocking. And deeply upsetting for my poor old dad.

No, just the BBC.

What a bizarre post. Murder is inherently violent.There have been violent female killers. I think if your first thought on reading about a murder is whether the culprit is trans based on absolutely nothing perhaps you're thinking about it way too much and need a break from the internet.

How did the other 3 daughters not notice their parents missing over 5 years?

There was another case from last year, a woman was fatally stabbed by her 'daughter', Bronwyn, that seemed off...Bronwyn's picture! He seems to have detrans since being charged. Admits he killed his mum but not murder. Awful story. A dead mum, a grieving daughter and a seriously disturbed son whose authentic self has committed a terrible crime.

She’s female and she’s pleaded guilty to the murder of her parents today: www.essex.police.uk/news/essex/news/news/2024/july/chelmsford-daughter-admits-murdering-parents/

It is sad and we don't know how it's going to play out. Women are absolutely capable of murder. But it's shameful that the media are reporting crimes in such a fashion that we cannot trust such a basic fact.

Certainly possible. It's also possible there was no actual homicide: it's not unknown for relatives to conceal natural deaths, so they can continue to receive pensions.

However, I think we should be keeping an open mind either way. Women are much less likely than men to commit murder, but there are still around 50 homicides by women each year.

She’s a woman woman. Although I can see how from the reporting that would be questioned. She was always very odd, and was known locally to be a ‘character’. Waiting to see how it h folds - very sad state of affairs for all involved.

I found this jarring.

The defendant, who wore a grey prison-issue tracksuit and had a blonde bob haircut, spoke only to confirm her personal details.

https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/23796293.chelmsford-murder-investigation-woman-appears-court/

It's possible that she cracked due to caring responsibilities to elderly parents. The time frame covers the covid/lockdown periods where getting help and support was a nightmare. As a carer isolated themselves, possibly with poor mental health due to stress, worry or fear people can make irrational decisions.

It hadn't occurred to me. I think it's perfectly possible for such a crime to have been committed by a woman.

Were they ill and she helped them Suicide?

It is frustrating. But on the bright side, you can run but you can’t hide from bmd records. All those that change their names and complain of dead naming, their birth name will forever be on record on gro!

I thought the same thing when I saw the headline.

It's frustrating that we can no longer take what we read at face value.

Cheers for finding that out.

It pisses me off no end that we have to do this fact checking ourselves now.

According to bmd, a John McCullough and Lois Butcher had a child named Virginia in 1987 so it seems in this case it could be an actual woman.

Yes, I’ve just seen that on the local paper website.

Off topic but it wouldn't be violent if someone was poisoned surely? Sky news have a court drawing that looks like it is a woman.

The news tonight reported that human remains have been found in the house.

This is a weird one altogether. They’ve given a five year time frame and the bodies haven’t yet been found. 🤷‍♀️

I thought the same. RIP the couple whoever they might be.