KJK has had to call off her trip to NZ

Yup, that’s good solid evidence by the trans movement’s standards! Because a mob shouting abuse is worth so much more than facts, written evidence, solid research backed by references etc….

We’re fully in McCarthyism atm

I don’t know if I can see a way out given gender ideology is embedded in institutions and the law

Yes more facts that show a lack of any concept of critical awareness from the likes of bizza.

Yes there’s more studies into how crowds behave

Ae there are waves etc that create danger

That a mob formed and acted as one is a main reason that police need to manage 2000 people in an space.

Violent agents will always make their way to the front of any conflict zone as that is where they find the oppertunity to be violent.

Humans are like any animal that live in community groupings and will engage in "herd instinct" in large crowds.
Going with the flow, and allowing others to make (sometimes vital) decisions on how they move within a crowd.

Crush deaths are always a risk in crowds as FOMO creates the danger

Mismanagement of about 400 people on a night out in NI killed 3.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/tyrone-disco-deaths-it-started-with-pushing-then-the-crushing-started-1.3830279

^ includes an account of a girl who was pulled out

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/two-men-to-be-charged-over-deaths-of-three-teenagers-in-crush-outside-st-patricks-day-disco-12686942

Note ^ how the NI police investgated its own actions on how it managed the result of the crush. The two who should have done proper planning are charged.

And NI was a "happy" crowd
Add in even a few violent agents and rioting and the risk of an accidental stampede goes through the roof.

The police planning was poor if 2000 people were turning up with the aim of "stopping hate" and stopping women from meeting and speaking at a fixed focal point.

This was precisely Billy Bragg's reasoning with Roisin Murphy.

'Of course she was transphobic, look, people are calling her transphobic' - to paraphrase.

What's the word for when the evidence of an accusation is the accusation itself? Surely there is one?

It's pure witch hunting logic.

That isn’t ‘clear’ at all. You are rather dishonest bizza. Why are you so dishonest?

A group of Māori women were involved in organizing the women’s rally. Are you saying that those women don’t count in New Zealand?

Because from seeing all of this unfold, I would have to say that this may well be the case for the group of people who violently protested and all those denying the violence of the group and that they prevented Māori women having their say.

Is that what you are supporting? That Māori women have to remain silent and not be able to speak in public about their concerns? Really?

And surprise surprise no mention of the OIA in any of the MSM reports today. The closest any of them got to it was the ODT saying Kellie-Jay accuses police etc of corruption.

I think the crowd must have been told that the police were being held back. The surge forward seemed coordinated and they were completely unconcerned about what they were doing and that they were being filmed.

Im glad she got out of it unscathed.

The hilarious thing is that as familiar as bizza’s brand of smug gotchas across the FWR board that then completely backfire to show the opposite is, some people will be applauding bizza for sticking it to the ‘haters’. That is the level of critical thinking we have been seeing for years.

The glee that bizza delivers each ill conceived ‘gotcha’ which then instead shines the light on the shortcomings of the extremism on the group of people they supposedly are supporting, would be an extra layer of humiliation for the majority of people. Once you see the pattern though, you cannot miss it. It is unique to a group of people who believe male people can magically become female people.

Although the style in which bizza does it, is their own and that too is unmissable. I do believe they do it specifically for that humiliation. And that is just another concerning dimension.

2000 people
And the crowd control was so so poor from a basis H&S point of view

And the overall police planning was so so poor that it ended as a mini- riot.

So the NZ police were OK with dangerous public disorder and VAW

Dear reader

Operation let them speak!

Oh misogynistic….

like these people in these quotes you mean…

https://x.com/garylfrancione/status/1702547170820497447?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

I mean, I have plenty of others I can add. Such as the J Fae classic about women’s eggshell skulls being the issue causing death not violent males, (I remember a few from J Fae actually). And the prominent male trans influencers who mocked female toilet habits and noises on social media.

There is many others I can post. There is something about male people who simply cannot help but show their misogynistic side while trying to convince the world they are women….

They are some great examples of misogyny! Shall we start posting them so everyone can see what misogyny actually looks like? Because you seem to need some help identifying what misogyny is.

Crowds at a sensational execution could far exceed the size of the local polity. An execution in 1820 in Clingen (in the German principality of Schwarzburg-Sondershausen) attracted 20,000 spectators. Clingen itself had only 1,000 inhabitants.

Source Crowds and Public Executions citing The spectacle of suffering : executions and the evolution of repression : from a preindustrial metropolis to the European experience (1984) by Spierenburg, Petrus Cornelis

Oh and there was the 'heartwarming' and 'lovely gay supporting' bit where a terrified lesbian (woman one) was protected by a group of surprised fundamentalist Christian men from being beaten by a rampaging mob. Who identified as being pro LGBT, but weren't.

This was a bunch of violent yobs, all hyped up and excited about getting their pitchforks out. Nothing shinier. Sorry. The screaming mob at Tyburn all excited about people being hung about covers it.

Mob/herd/hive mentality.

People used to buy tickets to watch hangings at Tyburn, so yes.

Some people think it's fun to see a human be executed. Some people think it's fun to intimidate and mob other humans.

Did you answer this?

You think that an elderly woman having her skull fractured is 'heartwarming'?

Because if that’s what you mean by ‘get there’ you can keep the violence

I seem to recall a lot of threads about how women in NZ invited KJK because they wanted to hear her, so it was not true that none wanted her, LizzaBizza. Only they were Maori wahines, so perhaps they didn't count as New Zealanders in LB's world view.

Sounds like you’re anti trans otherwise why just talk about men and women? All the non binaries will be cwying tears into their blue hair because of your vewy hurty words.