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Work HR: Preferred Pronouns are mandatory

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MoreThanAFeline · 14/09/2023 20:22

Name changed for this. I wanted to update my address on the HR system at work. The instructions on how to do this say that something simple like updating an address can be done easily and that each section can be independently accessed.

When I try to click to the address part of the form, I get the attached error message.
Preferred Pronouns are apparently mandatory. My 'gender identity' is mandatory. My 'trans status' is mandatory. Sex is not asked for anywhere.

My workplace is supposed to be run by grown ups. How depressing.

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SpicyMoth · 14/09/2023 20:54

Maybe I've misunderstood, but I was under the impression that work places were expressly NOT supposed to essentially force their workers to "out" themselves? So even from an activists PoV surely this would be problematic?

BloodyHellKen · 14/09/2023 20:49

With a system like that Op I'd just put in random shit and see if anyone dares to challenge me on it. I'd tell them I'm a trans woman and give them some crazy neo pronouns to chew over 😂

GreenMonty · 14/09/2023 20:43

MoreThanAFeline · 14/09/2023 20:35

It is maddening, yes. And just so tedious that this sort of thing keeps happening (ample evidence on this forum for a start). I guess I'll actually be brave and send them an email 😒

I sent a brief email to the head of HR indicating that I didn't believe in gender identity and only see myself in terms of biological sex. Never got a response.

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MoreThanAFeline · 14/09/2023 20:40

GreenMonty · 14/09/2023 20:36

Nope preferred pronouns is mandatory. It's the same system/ interface as yours OP.

Do you work in higher education? No idea whether this is bespoke to my workplace or an off-the-shelf HR system that is used all over the place.

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LoobiJee · 14/09/2023 20:38

dcbc1234 · 14/09/2023 20:29

I suspect various GDPR breaches in what they are making compulsory.

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Good point.

GreenMonty · 14/09/2023 20:36

Nope preferred pronouns is mandatory. It's the same system/ interface as yours OP.

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MoreThanAFeline · 14/09/2023 20:35

It is maddening, yes. And just so tedious that this sort of thing keeps happening (ample evidence on this forum for a start). I guess I'll actually be brave and send them an email 😒

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ErrolTheDragon · 14/09/2023 20:30

I'd like to ask my employer why they are asking all this weird stuff which is not part of the Equality Act 2010, and whether the resulting data is GDPR compliant.

Someone should, for sure.

GreenMonty · 14/09/2023 20:30

I have this at my workplace. Can't update bank details without giving gender identity question an answer. Don't have to indicate pronouns..

dcbc1234 · 14/09/2023 20:29

LoobiJee · 14/09/2023 20:27

I’m surprised they believe they can require disclosure of marital status and caring responsibilities as a contractual condition of employment.

I suspect various GDPR breaches in what they are making compulsory.

ResisterRex · 14/09/2023 20:28

Hopefully someone with good data knowledge will advise. But it would seem they're asking for information that has no legal basis (gender ID and preferred pronouns), and therefore processing data they don't need.

Be it: storing, deleting, sending from one person to another, they're probably processing data in an unlawful way because it's got no legal basis.

No organisation is meant to have more personal data than it needs. And it doesn't need what yours purports to be "mandatory" because...none of it's anchored in the law.

maudesvagina · 14/09/2023 20:27

Sex Matters might be good place for advice

LoobiJee · 14/09/2023 20:27

I’m surprised they believe they can require disclosure of marital status and caring responsibilities as a contractual condition of employment.

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MoreThanAFeline · 14/09/2023 20:23

Further info: I could click to choose my 'preferred pronouns' but there's no option for 'I do not believe in the whole premise of gender ideology; use the third person pronouns you normally would do for someone of my sex'

Same for gender identity. I do not "prefer not to say" what my gender identity is. I DO NOT HAVE a gender identity because I do not believe in the weird ideology that underpins the question.

I'd like to ask my employer why they are asking all this weird stuff which is not part of the Equality Act 2010, and whether the resulting data is GDPR compliant.

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