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Graham Linehan’s Book

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PretzelKnot · 14/09/2023 05:17

Tough Crowd, due out 12 October. I’m delighted to see this. He is such a good writer and has sacrificed so much in defence of women’s rights and reality itself. Hope it’s a smash hit.

https://x.com/glinner/status/1702078826543448552?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

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Wanderingowl · 14/09/2023 08:36

Brewdug · 14/09/2023 08:06

Given the furore over the quotes on Jordan Peterson's book, and the contentiousness of the trans issue, you'd hope this was all above board. I'm sure if Glinner has final approval it will be. It's vital this book stands on its content, without giving further ammunition to TRAs.

People like Ayoade, Roisin Murphy etc shouldn't be forced into being campaigners and that neutral ground can take some of the heat out of things so I think has its uses. However you 'can't unsee' these things, as the likes of John Boyne have found out.

There is a bit of a trend in publishing at the moment of taking a small quote from an unflattering review out of context and putting it on the cover/publicity materiel as if it was positive. The Society of Author's may be officially calling it "morally questionable" now but it's been going on for years. Long, long before the quotes for Peterson's book caused them to virtue signal. It's been seen as something of a jokey fuck you to reviewers for quite a while now. And I get why it happens but I don't like it.

In a situation like this where Ayoade has never spoken on this issue, I just really, really hope he's fully prepared for his denouncement. It's likely his agent/management people will be in overdrive trying to make him backtrack, which is why I think so many celebrities recant. So I hope he's ready to just ignore and get on with his life.

SomersetBrie · 14/09/2023 08:35

Where are people ordering from - especially to get a signed copy?
I read his free substack not the paid one so am I missing out?

And it's not a matter of if I preorder it's when and where.

Deadringer · 14/09/2023 08:24

I never buy books (lack of space) but I will be buying this one, I hope it does really well. Surprised at Jonathan Ross sticking his neck out but glad that he did, fair play to him.

CraggyIslandTouristBoard · 14/09/2023 08:14

Abhannmor · 14/09/2023 06:34

All my friends will receive this for Christmas!

If you can, please order/pre-order it now - apparently it makes a big difference to bestseller lists and also what shops order in.

Brewdug · 14/09/2023 08:06

Wanderingowl · 14/09/2023 07:53

I really hope that Ayoade knew that his quote would be on the front of the book and that he is fully prepared for the backlash. I'll be very happy if he just quietly ignores the tantrum and doesn't recant.

Given the furore over the quotes on Jordan Peterson's book, and the contentiousness of the trans issue, you'd hope this was all above board. I'm sure if Glinner has final approval it will be. It's vital this book stands on its content, without giving further ammunition to TRAs.

People like Ayoade, Roisin Murphy etc shouldn't be forced into being campaigners and that neutral ground can take some of the heat out of things so I think has its uses. However you 'can't unsee' these things, as the likes of John Boyne have found out.

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 14/09/2023 08:04

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 14/09/2023 07:25

Can you IMAGINE the fervour with which our bobble hated friend will be scouring the pages looking for something to sue about.
I hope Graham doesn't mention him at all. He shouldn't even be a footnote in history.

Hatted. The bobbles may also hate him, I suppose, but he's brought them so much publicity I doubt it.
Aren't we meant to be able to edit now?

CorylusAgain · 14/09/2023 08:04

Brilliant. That's a happy purchase to be made.
Really pleased to see high profile endorsements too!

Slothtoes · 14/09/2023 07:59

That all sounds excellent. Looking forward to buying it. It will be a hit I predict.

Wanderingowl · 14/09/2023 07:53

I really hope that Ayoade knew that his quote would be on the front of the book and that he is fully prepared for the backlash. I'll be very happy if he just quietly ignores the tantrum and doesn't recant.

Musomama1 · 14/09/2023 07:44

So so happy to see that from the likes of Ayoade.

When I think of Linehan I often think of his cameo in Garth Merenghi's Darkplace - the cult comedy cowritten by Ayoade and that launched his and Matt Berry's careers, pre I.T. Crowd .

So great to see one of his peers is sticking up for him.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 14/09/2023 07:37

Thank for the heads up, I will buy this come payday

The running grace comes out in a couple of weeks too, lots of reading for me this month!

Sunnava · 14/09/2023 07:32

User135644 · 14/09/2023 07:29

There'll he a statue of him built when this war is won.

Yeah, Graham really is the bravest of good men.

supertiredallthetime · 14/09/2023 07:32

Just ordered!

Great writer, deserves our support.

Sunnava · 14/09/2023 07:30
  • Sorry, that should read “NOT defended Graham”. ^
User135644 · 14/09/2023 07:29

There'll he a statue of him built when this war is won.

JeannieDark · 14/09/2023 07:28

Looking forward to this, will definitely get a copy. I'm pleasantly surprised at the quote from JR - I thought he was conflicted on this topic so that's great to see.

Sunnava · 14/09/2023 07:28

This should be a cracking read, and I have ordered it. I was very happy to see this book announcement, and also the endorsements — good for Ross and also the ever-beautiful Ayoade. I have been previously a little disappointed that Ayoade has publicly defended Graham, and so happy that he’s bravely doing so in a really meaningful way. Also very brave of Ross, whose daughter has historically been very “public pronouny”.

sashagabadon · 14/09/2023 07:28

RA has actually worked with GL in IT crowd so knows him personally and presumably admires him. Good quotes!

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 14/09/2023 07:25

Can you IMAGINE the fervour with which our bobble hated friend will be scouring the pages looking for something to sue about.
I hope Graham doesn't mention him at all. He shouldn't even be a footnote in history.

Calyx72 · 14/09/2023 07:24

Will definitely buy this today if it's on kindle
Very pleased at JR and RA endorsements
Thanks OP for the heads up!

NashvilleQueen · 14/09/2023 07:18

God I love Richard Ayoade and this has made me very happy. RA won't give a shit. He's not a social media presence and I imagine he's happy to stand by his principles.

I really hope so anyway...

Maaate · 14/09/2023 07:11

DworkinWasRight · 14/09/2023 07:09

Ooh, Graham kept that quiet! Interesting.

Not surprised. I'm sure he didn't want to risk the publishers pulling the plug when the MRA started piling on.

DworkinWasRight · 14/09/2023 07:09

Ooh, Graham kept that quiet! Interesting.

Lottapianos · 14/09/2023 06:54

'pleased to see complimentary quotes from Jonathan Ross and Richard Ayoade on the front cover'

Good for them. I'm sure they will get hassle for it, but no worse than that. Still a brave move

Lovecleansheets · 14/09/2023 06:54

Bought. Amazing man and a talented writer.