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Graham Linehan’s Book

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PretzelKnot · 14/09/2023 05:17

Tough Crowd, due out 12 October. I’m delighted to see this. He is such a good writer and has sacrificed so much in defence of women’s rights and reality itself. Hope it’s a smash hit.

https://x.com/glinner/status/1702078826543448552?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

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teawamutu · 14/09/2023 09:33

Lilifer · 14/09/2023 09:31

I lost respect for him a long long time ago. He is nearly worse than many of the others in that he is highly intelligent but like Graham "there's no such thing as cancel culture it's just accountability" Norton he knows what side his bread is buttered on (Beeb) and he's just playing it safe to keep his career.

Yup. It's a real shame.

Lilifer · 14/09/2023 09:31

UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 14/09/2023 09:28

Just pre-ordered (while listening to Róisín Murphy).

RA is an intelligent man, he'll have known what he was getting into.

On the subject of intelligent, science-driven men, I'm rapidly losing respect for Dara O'Briain.

I lost respect for him a long long time ago. He is nearly worse than many of the others in that he is highly intelligent but like Graham "there's no such thing as cancel culture it's just accountability" Norton he knows what side his bread is buttered on (Beeb) and he's just playing it safe to keep his career.

UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 14/09/2023 09:28

Just pre-ordered (while listening to Róisín Murphy).

RA is an intelligent man, he'll have known what he was getting into.

On the subject of intelligent, science-driven men, I'm rapidly losing respect for Dara O'Briain.

CecilyStreet · 14/09/2023 09:25

User135644 · 14/09/2023 07:29

There'll he a statue of him built when this war is won.

Let’s hope it’s within his lifetime (and mine!)

dimorphism · 14/09/2023 09:24

I don't know of course but I always got the sense RA was quite intelligent.

Anyone with half a brain cell to rub together realises that this anti-science anti-reality movement is going to be called out at some point and people will look back at past statements about women having penises (etc) and judge people on their intelligence levels, inability to stand up to totalitarian diktat and willingness to harm women and children. The attempts at mass delusion and totalitarian control of thought and speech can't persist forever.

The binary nature of sex in mammals is millions of years old, it's not some passing trend. It's like a movement that denies gravity exists if you decide you don't believe in it and forces people to act like they're all really floating around and that things that drop to the ground when you let them go don't really do that.

I suspect RA has realised that the turning point is coming and has decided now is the time to speak up.

Carouselfish · 14/09/2023 09:23

Ordered from Waterstones.

teawamutu · 14/09/2023 09:23

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 14/09/2023 09:15

As a longtime admirer of Glinner I'll be preordering this today. And I'm overjoyed to see Richard Ayoade has nailed his colours to the mast, it's really good to see someone my own age and who is a bit geeky who hasn't been utterly captured, I was really disappointed when I saw James Acaster making pro-TRA comments and I know they're often on the same shows.

James Acaster came across as a rude, arrogant prick on Taskmaster. Was prepared to consider it a comedy persona, then saw his spiel on Ricky Gervais and upgraded him to rude, arrogant, self-righteous prick.

Another RSOH 'thinker' who doesn't actually think because he's on the RSOH, therefore doesn't need to.

CorylusAgain · 14/09/2023 09:21

Given that RA has read the book he will be under no illusion as to the way some will react!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/09/2023 09:18

Definitely buying it! Loving that RA quote - yeah he knows & im sure he knows the likely reaction he’ll get as well. JR was monstered on twitter for being GC & after being “educated” by his daughters withdrew from the fight. Looks like he’s back!

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 14/09/2023 09:17

Hopefully the incredible work by people like Glinner, Maya Forstater et al has put us in a position where telling the truth (or even openly approving of someone else who tells the truth) isn't immediate career suicide for TV personalities the way it would have been 2 years ago.

LunaNorth · 14/09/2023 09:16

Pre-ordered. Looking forward to this.

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 14/09/2023 09:15

As a longtime admirer of Glinner I'll be preordering this today. And I'm overjoyed to see Richard Ayoade has nailed his colours to the mast, it's really good to see someone my own age and who is a bit geeky who hasn't been utterly captured, I was really disappointed when I saw James Acaster making pro-TRA comments and I know they're often on the same shows.

Rightsraptor · 14/09/2023 09:11

I'm worried that Richard A might have naively thought 'it's a comment on Graham's writing skills, nothing more. I'm not saying I agree with him on anything' and not realise how utterly vindictive and nasty these new Puritans are. I really hope I'm wrong and he's geared up for battle.

I'll definitely be buying copies.

dimorphism · 14/09/2023 09:11

Abhannmor · 14/09/2023 08:51

I'll order it as soon as I wake up properly @CraggyIslandTouristBoard !

Yea I hope Richard and Jonathan don't cop too much flak over the reviews. Hold tight lads - the misogynist mob are a minority. They failed to cancel Róisín.

Yes, and they're men (how can we tell? It's a mystery!) so they're unlikely to get the full on 'die in a fire/ suck my d*ck terf' treatment like Róisín did.

dimorphism · 14/09/2023 09:07

LizzieSiddal · 14/09/2023 06:52

Great, will be buying.
And I will be buying from a book shop so can check it’s being stocked. If it isn’t stocked, will be asking why.

It's insane to think that a memoir from a successful comedy writer could ever 'not be stocked' but this is where we are. How can the other side really think they're the right side of history when they try and suppress and ban books? Women aren't trying to stop trans ideology books being stocked - no matter how awful they are.

I will be buying for myself and for Christmas presents too.

I'll be watching this thread to see if someone in the know can advise on the best place to pre-order for the bestseller lists etc.

Brewdug · 14/09/2023 09:07

Ah that's the one Maaate. Thanks.

I'm a Glinner subscriber and checked out the pre-order link and it's worth seeing Ayoade's contribution in full. It's... unequivocal to say the least. Cant take that back, can he!

Graham Linehan’s Book
Maaate · 14/09/2023 09:00

Brewdug · 14/09/2023 08:58

Are they related by marriage somewhere along the line or am I confusing him with someone else?

Richard Ayoade is Lozza Fox's brother in law.

Brewdug · 14/09/2023 08:58

Are they related by marriage somewhere along the line or am I confusing him with someone else?

Pudmyboy · 14/09/2023 08:56

I thought Glinner wrote the IT crowd with Richard Ayoade specifically in mind for the part of Moss so I hope they have a connection. Matt Berry threw Glinner under the bus and the other two seem to have just kept their heads down. Such a shame as it's a brilliant show. Anyway @glinner: as Father Ted said: 'Good luck with the book!' I will be buying it for sure!

Abhannmor · 14/09/2023 08:51

I'll order it as soon as I wake up properly @CraggyIslandTouristBoard !

Yea I hope Richard and Jonathan don't cop too much flak over the reviews. Hold tight lads - the misogynist mob are a minority. They failed to cancel Róisín.

AnneVeronica · 14/09/2023 08:50

I wonder if he'll get the opportunity to promote it on MSM. Hopefully, the Mail and Telegraph will review it.

Martinisarebetterdirty · 14/09/2023 08:47

I’ve preordered on Amazon, the first hardback I’ve ever paid full price for and totally worth it.

OvaHere · 14/09/2023 08:46

Wanderingowl · 14/09/2023 08:36

There is a bit of a trend in publishing at the moment of taking a small quote from an unflattering review out of context and putting it on the cover/publicity materiel as if it was positive. The Society of Author's may be officially calling it "morally questionable" now but it's been going on for years. Long, long before the quotes for Peterson's book caused them to virtue signal. It's been seen as something of a jokey fuck you to reviewers for quite a while now. And I get why it happens but I don't like it.

In a situation like this where Ayoade has never spoken on this issue, I just really, really hope he's fully prepared for his denouncement. It's likely his agent/management people will be in overdrive trying to make him backtrack, which is why I think so many celebrities recant. So I hope he's ready to just ignore and get on with his life.

It's completely ridiculous. The quote is nothing more than a comment on his writing skills. Graham is a very talented writer and his views on any subject under the sun don't change that.

His detractors it would seem wish to deny reality about absolutely everything. Even if you don't like someone the grown up thing to do is accept people are multi faceted.

No doubt though this will be hyperbolically spun from Ayoade says Linehan is a brilliant writer to Ayoade wants people to die.

SomersetBrie · 14/09/2023 08:46

teawamutu · 14/09/2023 08:42

I'm a paid subscriber and got the mail yesterday announcing the book and a number of signed copies available for subscribers.

I'm going to buy it, of course - but weighing up whether it's better to buy via that link (and of course I'd love a signed copy) or pre-order from somewhere that might have an effect on chart status

Any thoughts? @Glinner?

Very good point.
I was thinking local independent book might be a good bet?
Not looking for the cheapest option here, looking for the best way to support and make a point.

teawamutu · 14/09/2023 08:42

SomersetBrie · 14/09/2023 08:35

Where are people ordering from - especially to get a signed copy?
I read his free substack not the paid one so am I missing out?

And it's not a matter of if I preorder it's when and where.

I'm a paid subscriber and got the mail yesterday announcing the book and a number of signed copies available for subscribers.

I'm going to buy it, of course - but weighing up whether it's better to buy via that link (and of course I'd love a signed copy) or pre-order from somewhere that might have an effect on chart status

Any thoughts? @Glinner?