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Graham Linehan’s Book

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PretzelKnot · 14/09/2023 05:17

Tough Crowd, due out 12 October. I’m delighted to see this. He is such a good writer and has sacrificed so much in defence of women’s rights and reality itself. Hope it’s a smash hit.

https://x.com/glinner/status/1702078826543448552?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

https://x.com/glinner/status/1702078826543448552?s=61&t=NHDSDk1MaF98_GOtcuLi0Q

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duc748 · 14/09/2023 17:31

RoyalCorgi · 14/09/2023 17:19

Everything with them is projection. The so-called trans rights movement is the most middle-class movement I've ever seen.

And solipsistic. And anything but left-wing, by any reasonable standard. Hardly communautaire, with it's constant refrain of "Me, me, me".

BreadInCaptivity · 14/09/2023 17:20

I didn't ask him to make those sacrifices and often wonder how and why it got so far

Nobody did, but regardless I view this on two levels.

Even if GL's situation is a result of his own choices he's still lost a lost in fighting a cause I care deeply about.

I'm happy to "support" those choices by buying his book.

Secondly re: my pp I think there is a wider issue at play by pushing back on cancel culture.

By buying Roisin's album and Graham's book I'm not just supporting those individuals I'm giving two fingers to people who think they have a right to use the threat of cancellation to restrict the output of GC writers/artists.

If we can demonstrate CC is counterproductive it becomes a useless strategy and more people may start to speak out, and organisations less receptive to online bullying (because that's what it amounts to) when this threat is nullified.

Buying this book is simply another opportunity to get my spade out and grow some more veg.

RoyalCorgi · 14/09/2023 17:19

Zodfa · 14/09/2023 17:05

I like Willoughby's idea that anti-trans views are "very middle-class". I'm sure even the more thuggish elements of the working class have no problem with trans people whatsoever.

Everything with them is projection. The so-called trans rights movement is the most middle-class movement I've ever seen.

Farmageddon · 14/09/2023 17:14

Thanks for this, just pre-ordered it on Amazon.

Brefugee · 14/09/2023 17:09

algasport · 14/09/2023 06:38

I hope everyone on these pages will buy a copy if they can.
GL has sacrificed so much for women.

I may buy it in paperback.

I didn't ask him to make those sacrifices and often wonder how and why it got so far

StephanieSuperpowers · 14/09/2023 17:09

Maaate · 14/09/2023 16:55

What is it they say..?

Oh yes...

Stay mad, lolz 😆

Also, touch grass.

RoyalCorgi · 14/09/2023 17:08

For Graham especially, the success of this book could be pivotal in demonstrating the market for his work outside the caustic SM bubble which hopefully would enable him to re-open other opportunities such a the FT musical and new TV work.

I really really hope so.

Zodfa · 14/09/2023 17:05

I like Willoughby's idea that anti-trans views are "very middle-class". I'm sure even the more thuggish elements of the working class have no problem with trans people whatsoever.

BreadInCaptivity · 14/09/2023 17:03

Really pleased to hear about this and have put my Amazon order in.

I really hope this sells well, not just for Graham but (much like as with Roisin's album) as an important push back about the effectiveness of cancel culture.

Calls to cancel will only be silenced by proof it doesn't work and importantly if it actually boosts sales by raising awareness and people buying such output as a protest in itself it becomes counterproductive.

Furthermore, organisations who've previously bowed to pressure may well have a big re-think when they realise not supporting GC artists/writers is costing them revenue - and finally find their backbone.

For Graham especially, the success of this book could be pivotal in demonstrating the market for his work outside the caustic SM bubble which hopefully would enable him to re-open other opportunities such a the FT musical and new TV work.

Ultimately money talks, so even if you're not a fan buy the book as a Christmas gift for someone and let's get this moving up the book charts!!!

viques · 14/09/2023 16:59

Rightsraptor · 14/09/2023 09:11

I'm worried that Richard A might have naively thought 'it's a comment on Graham's writing skills, nothing more. I'm not saying I agree with him on anything' and not realise how utterly vindictive and nasty these new Puritans are. I really hope I'm wrong and he's geared up for battle.

I'll definitely be buying copies.

I think Richard knows all about peering over parapets. His wife is the sister of Lawrence ( Laurence?) Fox , so he probably knows all about what happens if you make unpopular statements.

Well done Richard for speaking up, and Johnathan Ross too.

Watchinghockey · 14/09/2023 16:56

The publisher website doesn't mention the books being signed. Are all the books from them signed, or is that just for substack subscribers?

Maaate · 14/09/2023 16:55

StephanieSuperpowers · 14/09/2023 16:54

Well, the old Activist Community are not loving the fact of this book's existence, that's for sure. I can say that from a brief perusal of twitter.

What is it they say..?

Oh yes...

Stay mad, lolz 😆

StephanieSuperpowers · 14/09/2023 16:54

Well, the old Activist Community are not loving the fact of this book's existence, that's for sure. I can say that from a brief perusal of twitter.

Maaate · 14/09/2023 16:53

I hope the comment about a newspaper serialisation is true - this could lead to Glinner being vindicated when his actual comments are widely known.

I suspect that Glinner would have the support of the general public there's a lot of goodwill towards him because of Ted and IT crowd and a lot of people have no idea what has been done to him

AlwaysHeadingWest · 14/09/2023 16:46

I've pre-ordered!

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 14/09/2023 16:32

Helena Bonham-Carter's 'crime' was to say JK Rowling had been 'hounded' and that everyone is allowed their own opinion, I think.

Everybody IS entitled to their own opinions, but they AREN'T entitled to their own...erm...y'know...well, whatever WE tell you that you must believe, right...

WorriedMutha · 14/09/2023 16:23

I'm thinking of buying direct from the publisher but it doesn't say that it will be signed. Is that announced elsewhere?

StephanieSuperpowers · 14/09/2023 16:17

ScribblingPixie · 14/09/2023 15:25

Helena Bonham-Carter's 'crime' was to say JK Rowling had been 'hounded' and that everyone is allowed their own opinion, I think.

A very dangerous and troubling sentiment.

EsmaCannonball · 14/09/2023 15:49

Calistano · 14/09/2023 13:49

I never buy anything because I'm always skint, but I will buy this. Absolutely love glinner and his sense of humour (I'm willing to believe I lack context for count Arthur strong lol). He has lost so much, also he was willing to realise he harmed others with his previous behaviour and apologised. Admirable.

Why do people think, as a bloke he has been (almost) singled out for cancellation, when most men just get gentle blowback? James dreyfuss and Gareth Roberts were also treated to the same treatment.

Transactivists need everyone to believe that all those who disagree with them are right-wing toxic males who belong in the nineteenth century. The more left-wing or liberal a dissenter is, the more viciously they get brought down.

RealityFan · 14/09/2023 15:28

Please let this be Graham's ascent back to normality. I can't think of many others persecuted more by our modern day puritans.

Woman2023 · 14/09/2023 15:26

Interested to know what Louis Theroux said to upset IW, last I heard he was TWAW.

ScribblingPixie · 14/09/2023 15:25

Helena Bonham-Carter's 'crime' was to say JK Rowling had been 'hounded' and that everyone is allowed their own opinion, I think.

nzborn · 14/09/2023 15:16

Ordered from the publishers. nocie

WinterTrees · 14/09/2023 15:00

Maybe they just looked a bit GC, or used a forbidden word like 'biological', 'female', or 'woman' in an offensive, bigoted way. A dogwhistle, if you like. Sometimes celebs give themselves away by what they DON'T say. For example, has anyone ever heard Helena B-C declare that trans rights are human rights, or that she'd be honoured to pee in the cubicle next to Paris Lees? Thought not. Burn the witch.

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