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The misogynist Billy Bragg

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Maaate · 12/09/2023 18:38

About time he had his own thread to document the anti-women statements he comes out with. First up:

The misogynist Billy Bragg
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LizaBizza · 12/09/2023 20:40

AthenaWhite · 12/09/2023 18:50

He has lost all sense or reason and decency.

The woman depicted in the OP image spent an entire week last year complaining about a children's library mascot alien all because it was gender neutral.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 12/09/2023 20:38

Billy Bragg in 2014, speaking to the Daily Telegraph to promote the first Being a Man festival.

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Now he will have a chance to explore these ideas further at the first Being A Man festival - a weekend which will see Grayson Perry, Alastair Campbell and others discuss their experiences of masculinity as well as featuring workshops on subjects like depression, promiscuity and race. Bragg will appear for an evening of music and discussion with the rapper Akala, comedian Phill Jupitus and singer Tom Robinson, which will close the festival on Sunday evening. He will also take part in an event on the Saturday evening with novelist Nick Hornby and designer Wayne Hemingway.

“I think men need a place where we can talk about things that are a problem,” Bragg explains when asked why he was so keen to be involved. “I don’t think any man who’s watched the news since Christmas can feel comfortable with what’s been going on with Operation Yewtree, with Lord Rennard, with those men who were convicted in Peterborough. I look at the TV and I despair for my 20 year old son.

“I don’t think any of us can be complacent. I think there’s a responsibility for all of us to be putting out a message. I’m hoping that Being A Man will open up a can of worms and allow us to start talking about these issues.” Bragg bemoans the lack of a "blokesnet" - a Dadsnet does exist, but it has nothing like the same scope as its female counterpart - and other online forums where this discussion could otherwise happen.
But despite his interest in the festival and the issues it is is likely to raise, Bragg is quick to play down the notion that men are undergoing a "crisis of masculinity".

“When men went off to fight in the First World War, then came back and women were working in factories and had the vote - that was a crisis of masculinity,” he says.

“What we’ve got now is a change, and changes happen all the time. The only reason it’s being called a crisis is that middle class white blokes are having to change their attitudes about some things, and a lot of middle class white blokes have columns in the newspapers.”

From Billy Bragg: I look at the news and I despair for my 20 year old son

This is the group in Peterborough he was referring to: Peterborough sex gang's 'sophisticated' grooming tactics

Still unsure why reading about men being convicted of sexually abusing teenage girls would make you despair for your young adult son.

Billy Bragg: ‘I look at the news and despair for my 20-year-old son’

The musician and activist tells Theo Merz why men need a forum to share their concerns

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/10603033/Billy-Bragg-I-look-at-the-news-and-I-despair-for-my-20-year-old-son.html

SlippinJanie · 12/09/2023 20:38

He really is thick. And full of moronic hatred. Last year I donated my Bragg albums from the 80s to a charity shop but I wish I'd just binned them.

ACatCalledPushka · 12/09/2023 20:32

i used to like him as I’m a complete leftie. I now realise he’s a woman-hating misogynist.

No more albums or gigs for me.

What an absolute arsehole and hypocrite.

The misogynist Billy Bragg
Duckskitbank · 12/09/2023 20:30

I don’t know anything about his music but he comes across as such a whiny little dweeb on Twitter. As well as being nasty to numerous women.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 12/09/2023 20:17

Let's not forget that he recently revealed that he thinks puberty blockers are the same as beta blockers. x.com/billybragg/status/1698058549761319273?s=20

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 12/09/2023 20:14

MavisMcMinty · 12/09/2023 19:56

He clearly sees it as a left-wing vs right-wing thing, and therefore hasn’t got to consider what any of it actually means. Left = good, right = fascists, simples.

I think thats a big part of it for him. He's said similar about wearing masks and brexit - he knows everything about a person by one fact.

Its sixth form politics, at best.

If a group of men were following a trans person around like that, he'd be the first to say its wrong. But hes making excuses for this because he sees it as the correct punishment for their views. I wonder where his line is, what behavior would be unacceptable?

Hes a nasty piece of work and im glad i dont have any contact with him. I feel for the women who do.

LindorDoubleChoc · 12/09/2023 20:13

MavisMcMinty · 12/09/2023 19:56

He clearly sees it as a left-wing vs right-wing thing, and therefore hasn’t got to consider what any of it actually means. Left = good, right = fascists, simples.

As do so many others. When I queried the need for Drag Queen story hour in my local pub on my local forum a man (I know it was a man) just commented something like "don't listen to this fascist". Fucking dick.

terryleather · 12/09/2023 20:11

HumphreyCobblers · 12/09/2023 20:03

I have always hated his shitty music, droning singing and painfully obvious sixth form political lyrics. But he must realise now that he has revealed his true hatred of women to the whole world, surely?

Don't be ridiculous Humphrey, he's a tedious wokebro man of the Left and therefore he must always, always be right.

His entire identity will be based upon that presumption.

LizzieSiddal · 12/09/2023 20:09

This man just gets worse and worse. He really is telling us exactly who he is.

I know someone who worked with him recently. Her description was “he’s a complete bell end”. I’m hoping for more details when I next see her!

unsync · 12/09/2023 20:08

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/09/2023 19:53

I must admit I have wondered if we're looking at early onset dementia

he just doesn't seem to be able to think for himself

like, at all

Nothing new there. He's never been able to think for himself. I've always thought he was an idiotic twat, loathe him.

HumphreyCobblers · 12/09/2023 20:03

I have always hated his shitty music, droning singing and painfully obvious sixth form political lyrics. But he must realise now that he has revealed his true hatred of women to the whole world, surely?

terryleather · 12/09/2023 19:57

Tuneless fud.

MavisMcMinty · 12/09/2023 19:56

He clearly sees it as a left-wing vs right-wing thing, and therefore hasn’t got to consider what any of it actually means. Left = good, right = fascists, simples.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/09/2023 19:53

RebelliousCow · 12/09/2023 19:46

He freely admits it is all about being on what he perceives as 'the right side'. I wouldn't credit him with misogyny; he's not even able to rationalise his stance. He has no arguments. It is not thought through in the slightest. He has no curiosity. Just embarrassing some of the things he's coming out with.

I must admit I have wondered if we're looking at early onset dementia

he just doesn't seem to be able to think for himself

like, at all

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/09/2023 19:52

people turn up to chant 'fuck helen joyce' in the street

billy bragg: I don't call that harassment

one has to wonder what would count as harassment

possibly I'm missing the point, and what's important is not what's being done but who it is being done to. and if that's a Bad Lady then all bets are off

RebelliousCow · 12/09/2023 19:46

He freely admits it is all about being on what he perceives as 'the right side'. I wouldn't credit him with misogyny; he's not even able to rationalise his stance. He has no arguments. It is not thought through in the slightest. He has no curiosity. Just embarrassing some of the things he's coming out with.

Shortpoet · 12/09/2023 19:43

I was a chauvinist
I was a misogynist
I was a woman-hater
Between the wars
I laughed at women
As men shouted violence
Swore that they enjoyed it
Between the wars

feel free to amend / carry on…

Joolsin · 12/09/2023 19:38

ArabeIIaScott · 12/09/2023 19:24

Right, but did he look like he was enjoying it, secretly?

Hmm, hard to remember, but that frightened grimace might actually have been a smile. You're right, I bet he was loving it!!

popebishop · 12/09/2023 19:31

He's a coward and a bigot.

ArabeIIaScott · 12/09/2023 19:24

Joolsin · 12/09/2023 19:15

Many years ago, at a stage door after a gig, I and a group of about 6 others helped hide Billy Bragg from his stalker (a lone, female uberfan). He was shitting himself. The hypocrite.

Right, but did he look like he was enjoying it, secretly?

HermioneWeasley · 12/09/2023 19:22

What was it Germaine Greer said - something along the lines of women have very little idea how much men hate them.

it’s hard to look at when it comes out like this.

Boiledbeetle · 12/09/2023 19:21

IcakethereforeIam · 12/09/2023 19:11

Apologies for the derail, but what happened in Manchester?

https://twitter.com/FemNorthern/status/1701524139587104985?s=19

I know it's Twitter but should take to direct to one of the video clips.

BrontëParsonage · 12/09/2023 19:17

That is a disgusting comment that is up there with those of Luis Rubiales. The entitlement, misogyny and sheer hatred of women! It’s a bit like…nah, you weren’t being raped because you looked like you were enjoying it or you weren’t being coercively controlled because you were always so smiley.

Joolsin · 12/09/2023 19:15

Many years ago, at a stage door after a gig, I and a group of about 6 others helped hide Billy Bragg from his stalker (a lone, female uberfan). He was shitting himself. The hypocrite.

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