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The misogynist Billy Bragg

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Maaate · 12/09/2023 18:38

About time he had his own thread to document the anti-women statements he comes out with. First up:

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ArabeIIaScott · 23/09/2023 10:53

she’s willing to dress in a style acceptable to Daily Mail readers

Need to have that printed off and a slip put into every copy of the new Billy Bragg CD/LP.

I look forward to Billy Bragg's Big Book of How Nice Ladies Ought to Look.

ArabeIIaScott · 23/09/2023 10:51

'What?? Louise Distras hates trans people so much that she’s willing to dress in a style acceptable to Daily Mail readers in order to have a go at them. What does this have to do with feminism Louise? Or punk rock?'

I suppose given that genderism is all about signalling 'gender' through clothing choices it shouldn't come as a surprise that he is policing women's dress.

But you've got to wonder whether he sometimes thinks to himself in the wee small hours: 'Gosh, I'm telling a woman off for wearing the wrong sort of frock, what has become of me'.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 23/09/2023 10:09

It takes more balls than i thought he had to critise how a woman dresses, given how he looks.

Hes going to feel a right charlie when he stops shouting a women on the internet and look in the mirror.

Abhannmor · 23/09/2023 06:20

The failed punk rocker . The ' anti Thatcher socialist ' who joined the British Army in May 1981.

Then reappeared as a folk singer. Quite the Zelig isn't he.

LoobiJee · 23/09/2023 06:11

“What matters is his signalling to his class. The class that used to believe in the class war, and now believes in the identity war.”

Interesting point.

Cancelledcurio · 23/09/2023 01:24

What a nasty piece of work he is ! He just keeps getting worse and worse!

viques · 23/09/2023 01:13

So many of those transpeople and their supporters in the video are masked up, worried about catching Covid do you think?

RealityFan · 23/09/2023 00:37

Got no idea what Bragg really believes. Its unimportant, really. He could believe in mum and apple pie.

What matters is his signalling to his class. The class that used to believe in the class war, and now believes in the identity war.

And he's signalling true believer status.

That's why I feel this movement is less strict religion in the way Christianity presented itself. And more as a caste system.

But unlike existing religious caste systems, this one is a pure technocratic one, one based on neo beliefs like TWAW. Because the belief is so at odds with any real world thinking and falls apart the moment critical analysis is applied, it demands total adherence and the projection of rigorous membership.

Bragg is perhaps the most visible manifestation of this new highly anti human and anti science creed. And his ongoing public declarations of piety are his demonstrations of higher caste positioning.

And appealing to others to follow him.

Not bad for a second rate socialist anti Thatcher folk/dirge purveyor.

maltravers · 23/09/2023 00:30

Surely he’s not telling women what to wear! Like some old misogynist..?!

RealityFan · 23/09/2023 00:29

Dramatico · 18/09/2023 10:07

You can always tell a sexist because they only love women who are actively supporting or nurturing them. Russell Brand in his autobio praised his female boss at the BBC for "nurturing and indulging me, as the best women always do".

Transmaiden today = Handmaiden back in the day.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 23/09/2023 00:12

Now he's attacking a woman for wearing a dress.

I'm not even kidding. He seems to think female punk musicians have to wear their stage outfits all the time, or surrender their punk licences.

BloodyHellKen · 18/09/2023 12:30

Dramatico · 18/09/2023 10:07

You can always tell a sexist because they only love women who are actively supporting or nurturing them. Russell Brand in his autobio praised his female boss at the BBC for "nurturing and indulging me, as the best women always do".

Never a truer word was said @Dramatico

popebishop · 18/09/2023 11:22

"Cool girls let me do what I want! Not like those awful mummy women"

Dramatico · 18/09/2023 10:07

CriticalCondition · 13/09/2023 12:10

Blimey. That 2014 interview with BB is not what I know about women, more a list of some women I know. And how they are my support humans or wouldn't go out with me. I can almost hear him muttering 'Bitches'.

You can always tell a sexist because they only love women who are actively supporting or nurturing them. Russell Brand in his autobio praised his female boss at the BBC for "nurturing and indulging me, as the best women always do".

Datun · 17/09/2023 10:37

Apart from not understanding fight, flight, freeze or appease, the other thing that gets me, too, is how any normal human being could possibly imagine that women would enjoy being followed by a bunch of frothing, violent men screaming at them.

What sort of world does Bragg inhabit that makes him think that any woman, anywhere, wouldn't be less than bloody frightened.

He's SOOO sure that scaring women results in them crying or running away, isn't he?

Datun · 17/09/2023 10:31

Russell Brand has given many, many women at ick. It's nothing to do with these fresh revelations. In fact, for almost everybody I know, it's hardly a revelation at all.

When people were speculating that the Dispatches programme was about Russell Brand, most people were of the opinion that it couldn't be, because it wouldn't exactly be news.

It's absolutely no bloody surprise, whatsoever, that the likes of Bragg and Jones are pally with him.

Maaate · 17/09/2023 09:42

Unfortunate...

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Maaate · 16/09/2023 23:00

Good job us terven don't do the whole guilt by association thing...

Oops.
Russell Brand gave me the ick long ago.

BathingBeauty · 16/09/2023 23:27

The problem is there is an awful lot of people who think that being pro-trans means they are a great person who is showing how they are open and caring to everyone. Without the critical thinking of who is effected by this support -
children and women.

I now know 3 trans parents who are of course very trans supportive now it’s effecting them. Know what I did when my daughter started down this road, I pushed back as subtlety as I could. We’ve discussed how awful puberty is, and how it’s awful for boys in a different way. How gender norms are bollocks.

I know someone whose m2f child has taken basically the same name as his sister, if that’s not fucked up I don’t know what is. Allowing this doesn’t make you are great caring parent as much as you think it is.

Lantyslee · 16/09/2023 23:27

Like @TragicMuse i have a trans identifying child and am a member of a couple of parent support groups. I've never met a group of people more vehemently against gender ideology. Whatever you think of the impact of gender ideology on women's rights, it's nothing compared to facing the possibility of your mentally ill child mutilating their body.
I cannot understand any parent that would support it. Most will try to keep lines of communication but it's a very difficult path to tread.

When BB takes potshots at feminists and people put their pronouns in their email signatures its the thin end of a wedge that leads to my child believing their depression can be cured by cross sex hormones 😡

Maaate · 16/09/2023 23:09

Oh dear 😬

https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/1149692946536701953?t=OdV1j870ujjwWhRfG3d8wQ&s=19

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Maaate · 16/09/2023 23:00

Good job us terven don't do the whole guilt by association thing...

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HelenFisksBrownSuit · 13/09/2023 17:04

Re the politcal self-righteousness of the likes of BfB, must get around to reading this at some point.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0141039167/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_9?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

CorruptedCauldron · 13/09/2023 16:00

Back to BfB, I would so love to get in a room with him. Principally to confound his sad little brain with my rampant socialist gender criticism. Not a right winger, never have been and never will be. Labour is nowhere near left enough for me now, gender-worshipping bullshit aside. His head could explode. And wouldn't that be a thing to behold...

It’s so easy for Billy to have this four legs good, two legs bad mentality. To think that he’s a left-wing goodie and anyone who disagrees with him must be a right-wing baddie (bigot, fascist etc). I’d love to see him taken down a peg or two, and this takedown would be all the sweeter if delivered by someone to the left of his own politics. He needs to understand that gender ideology is not a left / right issue, and left-wing women who disagree with him haven’t suddenly turned into Nazis overnight! Such a petulant and ridiculous viewpoint. One day, perhaps after lambasting a few more gender-critical women on social media, he’ll reflect on his behaviour and ask himself the question: “Am I the baddie here?” Yes Billy, I’m afraid you are.

RealityFan · 13/09/2023 14:40

TragicMuse · 13/09/2023 14:35

Absolutely understood!

I know I'm sometimes a bit sensitive about this kind of thing because I don't want to be grouped with those mutilating nutjobs.

Back to BfB, I would so love to get in a room with him. Principally to confound his sad little brain with my rampant socialist gender criticism. Not a right winger, never have been and never will be. Labour is nowhere near left enough for me now, gender-worshipping bullshit aside. His head could explode. And wouldn't that be a thing to behold...

Good luck. Really. I have a close friend who has a niece who is super sensitive and pushing for FTM, meds, surgery, the lot. Parents have taken your tack, the minimal affirmation, and luckily the love of horses has taken over, said niece on an equine care training course. The hope is that as puberty fully works thru, she will realise that it was a phase.
Broken eggshells on the ground.

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