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The misogynist Billy Bragg

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Maaate · 12/09/2023 18:38

About time he had his own thread to document the anti-women statements he comes out with. First up:

The misogynist Billy Bragg
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RebelliousCow · 23/09/2023 13:29

For some people 'identity' is something they cling on to; a persona they feel comfortable with and so are resistant to change. But a healthy dynamic sense of self evolves and grows, and changes throughout one's life. It is not static.

So many people once they get to a certain age stop listening to anything new; no new music; just re-playing the favourites from when they were at their prime. And they still dress the way they did when they were younger like they are frozen in time.

RebelliousCow · 23/09/2023 13:25

I think people are giving Billy Bragg far too much credit. He doesn't " hate women", he's just caught in a conundrum of his own creation - based on the fact that what matters most to him is his Leftie group identity. His whole career has been about singing protest songs as big Left events and rallies.

He's just following the crowd and in doing that finds himself saying the most ridiculous and sexist things in order to justify the mess he's in. He doesn't understand the issue, and he doesn't really grasp the conflict at the heart of the trans agenda. He's not done any research; he hasn't really listened or followed up on anything.

And he's addicted to twitter and keeps on feeling he has to say something about whatever is circulating in his twitter bubble. He probably feels like he's 'taking one for the side' - in being subject to so much social media comment and 'abuse'. And that further solidifies his position as a vocal ally and hero of the trans movement and the 'woke' left in general.

Igmum · 23/09/2023 13:23

This is vile. Utter misogynist. I have some of his records from way back when. I've known this for a while but it's still awful to see him prove it time and again.

Thelnebriati · 23/09/2023 12:51

But he subscribes to identity politics, so his anger makes sense. The outfit is literally how he knows a persons identity. Cut your hair or change your outfit and suddenly he is uncertain who you are. If he can't tell then he might accidentally act like a terrible transphobe, and that would be unbearable.

EdithStourton · 23/09/2023 12:43

ArabeIIaScott · 23/09/2023 10:59

Oh, I see.

Well, quite, Arabella.
That picture says rather a lot.

Heliotroper · 23/09/2023 12:39

If punk was about the young making old people angry simply by the way they dress then she ain't doing bad.

itsmylife7 · 23/09/2023 12:32

Joolsin · 12/09/2023 19:15

Many years ago, at a stage door after a gig, I and a group of about 6 others helped hide Billy Bragg from his stalker (a lone, female uberfan). He was shitting himself. The hypocrite.

Have you reminded him of this at all ?

Twitter/X would be a great place for it.

Heliotroper · 23/09/2023 12:29

If it has been a bloke in that dress, Billy would have said how brave he was.

PorcelinaV · 23/09/2023 12:26

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12541309/Now-ordinary-women-like-CANCELLED-trans-lobby-came-celebrities-like-JK-Rowling-wasnt-say-frontline-gender-debate-war.html

‘It started with me sharing my views on Twitter about cancel culture, free speech and gender identity.

'Female-centric platforms and organisations that once supported me started calling me transphobic and a national station wouldn’t play my song called Girl In The Mirror — apparently because it was all about girlhood and womanhood.

‘Music journalists won’t speak to me because they think I’m transphobic — but I refuse to self-censor my views on this.

‘I asked my live booking agency to help me put measures in place to keep me safe at my future gigs, and they responded by sending me an email with a series of links to “educate” me on why cancel culture can be a good thing.

‘In a separate email, I was advised to “distance” myself from the debate for the sake of my career.

Meet the ordinary women who are being CANCELLED by the trans lobby

A would-be MP, an artist and a singer are among the ordinary women who have been cancelled. Speaking to JILL FOSTER, they explain how they have been bullied, harassed and punished.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12541309/Now-ordinary-women-like-CANCELLED-trans-lobby-came-celebrities-like-JK-Rowling-wasnt-say-frontline-gender-debate-war.html

Heliotroper · 23/09/2023 12:26

I doubt even Mail readers are disturbed about young ladies dressing in a style first pioneered nearly fifty years ago.

Whatever she wears is just a fashion choice and it is her choice.

ScribblingPixie · 23/09/2023 12:24

Quite incredible. I did like her own Tweet though where she called him a See You Next Tuesday. Punk enough for you, Billy?

AIstolemylunch · 23/09/2023 12:19

As if he's punk! With his millions of pounds mansion by the sea and interior designer partner putting in hand printed wallpapers! massive, massive hypocrite - like all the champagne socialists.

ArabeIIaScott · 23/09/2023 12:19

'Spectacularly missing the point. Bragg was critical of the dishonest way Distras has been rebranded to make her palatable to conservatively minded daily mail readers (squares).'

Was he, aye?

Someone else criticises Distras for being 'frumpy'.

The Mail has a majority female readership. God forbid a paper caters to a female audience, or a woman fail to dress in an adequately sexually appealing way for old men's tastes.

IcakethereforeIam · 23/09/2023 12:15

I think if you're known for being and dressing 'punk', it's really punk to kick back against the stereotypes. Wasn't there a punk singer who used to wear ball gowns?

Oh, and Bragg is a that.

PorcelinaV · 23/09/2023 12:12

That is such a nasty, demonising comment. Just using the silliest thing to help vilify someone.

It's stupid as fuck. Like Daily Mail readers are going to care if she was wearing something more "alternative".

What does it have to do with punk rock? Who cares? What does it have to do with feminism? Bragg can't be completely unaware of the women's rights case here, so also a stupid question.

RebelliousCow · 23/09/2023 11:34

Some proper punk responses though.....

ArabeIIaScott · 23/09/2023 11:33

Sanctimonious is generous.

Heliotroper · 23/09/2023 11:29

" I wish I had your voice and youthful good looks" is what you said whilst brushing your mangled claw over me at Leftfield. I always wondered how Jim Jones got all those people to drink the Kool Aid, and now I totally get it. Bring it on you sanctimonious old caaant"

https://twitter.com/LouiseDistras/status/1705507545673027860

https://twitter.com/LouiseDistras/status/1705507545673027860

Chersfrozenface · 23/09/2023 11:28

ArabeIIaScott · 23/09/2023 11:10

In fairness, Cher, he does seem pretty doggedly committed to women-hatred, regardless of current fashions.

I think that's just his base default setting and he chooses or adapts his Causes accordingly.

ArabeIIaScott · 23/09/2023 11:10

In fairness, Cher, he does seem pretty doggedly committed to women-hatred, regardless of current fashions.

Chersfrozenface · 23/09/2023 11:09

LoobiJee · 23/09/2023 06:11

“What matters is his signalling to his class. The class that used to believe in the class war, and now believes in the identity war.”

Interesting point.

Like many, if not most, activists and shouters, he follows whatever the cause du jour happens to be. Or causes du jour, frequently.

The evidence for and thinking behind the Cause doesn't matter. All that's important is that it is a Cause.

ArabeIIaScott · 23/09/2023 11:07

'Billy Bragg schools Russell Brand' is the strapline under this video.

The misogynist Billy Bragg
Kucinghitam · 23/09/2023 11:02

Billy Bragg is a brilliant beam of sunlight for TRSOH

#OperationLetThemSpeak

ArabeIIaScott · 23/09/2023 10:59

Oh, I see.

The misogynist Billy Bragg
Abhannmor · 23/09/2023 10:58

Or as Skint Video put it :

I was a docker , I was a miner
I was fucking busy in between the wars.

Quite.

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