Leaked recording exposes trans turmoil at The Guardian (Times, 12/09/23)

And slight derail but has anyone seen John Boyne's Ode to Owen Jones aged 39 and a quarter today. Check it out for the lola.

Only it you think short term

The rebranding and new niche markets can be a long term money spinner.
Get a child on a rebranded drug at 10 or 11 and having them for life.
No extra R&D, no liability as its used off lable thats free money.

Even normaliaing the idea that R&D is not needed is a "good thing" for profits.
And that cosmetic creams pills are a "magic solution thing" because a 15 year old is able to make an informed choice lots of long term possibilities there too.

Why would I want to buy newspaper that I expect to speak truth to power when it can't stand up to the adolescents on its workforce. And don't get me started on its status as a poodle to the Americans. Irony overload.

You’re offering your “one opinion” I see. Have you done a detailed analysis or just taken a punt on what will provoke?

Me too. It used to be pretty decent way back when

It’s shock jock type stuff now just from TRA plus doom angle

Pharmaceutical forms are always looking to expand business, especially if there are life long customers to be found.

Let’s start meditating kids then! As long as no one’s making a profit out of it it’s a great idea amirite?!

I've thought for a very,very long time that the Grauniad is writing primarily for US readership.It's where the money is , so consequently articles are written to appeal to a certain readership. It's one reason why i stopped reading it, the articles were of no interest to me and had little bearing on life in the UK. A lot of it is , what I will call, identity politics. There are very rare articles that are well written, i often feel an adolescent has contributed.

Your individual opinion is that it's 'overcooked'. That's fine.

Time was this would have made me sad and or angry

these days all I have is schadenfreude

comment is free eh?

Laura Snapes, The Guardian’s deputy music editor, gave Murphy’s Hit Parade a five-star rating, but noted that the singer’s comments that “mixed-up kids” needed protection meant that the album would be “compromised for many fans”.

not only was thid self indulgent childish nonsense but completely overestimated the influence that her media clique has on ordinary fans

One individuals opinion isn’t much. The fact of the matter is the “big pharma” link is over-cooked.

The amount of money “big pharma” makes from meds associated with gender reassignment is tiny in the overall scheme of their business.

Yeah, I'd like to see the figures.

Can't find it right now, and I have to go out, sorry.

But in the meantime, there is this, among many similar articles:

'The Global Sex Reassignment Surgery Market Size accounted for USD 519.8 Million in 2022 and is estimated to achieve a market size of USD 3,171.3 Million by 2032 growing at a CAGR of 20.4% from 2023 to 2032.
An In-depth Understanding of the Sex Reassignment Surgery Market:Sex reassignment surgeries are intricate surgical procedures that change the physical appearance and functionality of an individual's existing sexual characteristics to mirror those of their identified gender. These surgeries play a crucial role in the transition process for many transgender individuals.The market for these surgeries is fueled by several factors. Societal acceptance of transgender individuals has been growing, and this has led to a rise in the number of people who identify as transgender and wish to undergo such surgeries. Furthermore, there have been significant advancements in the surgical procedures themselves, making them more efficient and safer, thereby increasing their demand. Better healthcare policies are now being implemented in various regions worldwide, which cover the costs of such surgeries and make them more accessible to those who need them.However, there are considerable challenges that could potentially impact the rise of the sex reassignment surgery market. These include the high cost of these surgeries, which can often make them inaccessible to many, and a significant shortage of skilled surgeons specializing in these procedures.Despite these challenges, the market for sex reassignment surgeries is expected to continue to grow in the years to come. This growth is anticipated due to the continued rise in the recognition of transgender rights, improvements in healthcare policies, and advancements in medical technology.
'

https://www.globenewswire.com/en/news-release/2023/06/08/2685095/0/en/Sex-Reassignment-Surgery-Market-Size-to-reach-a-remarkable-USD-3-171-3-Million-by-2032.html

I have said it before and will say it again but if this happened to any other news source there would long articles in the Guardian about US cultural hegemony.

it does rather show up their a) lack of inclusion and diversity b) that they are idiots.

Surgery makes lifelong patients. We have footage of a hospital boss enthusing about this, and the massive revenue forthcoming from the growth in 'gender affirming treatment'. I'll try and find it.

Consider IDAHOBIT, Pride Season (summer), DEI week, non binary awareness day, etc, there is not a day of the year that these people won't try to claim that nobody is allowed to disagree with them because LOOK THE CALENDAR IS STRIPY TODAY.

The amount of money “big pharma” makes from meds associated with gender reassignment is tiny in the overall scheme of their business.

I have a mate who observes frequently that for all the left's (her word) professed abhorrence of all things and movements and attitudes American, they seem remarkably keen to adopt some of them.

'....... subsequently left many in the newsroom furious because it was held during the newspaper’s diversity, equity and inclusion week'

We should compile a list of 'thought terminating' (or attempted) thought terminating phrases that TRAs trot out. This one is of the 'and in Pride month' variety.

...attempts to organise internal events had resulted in “efforts to loudly, even violently, protest or stop meetings taking place”.

I want to know more about this. "Even violently"? In a newsroom?!

What did they try to do? Pen is mightier than the sword, and all that? Certainly doesn't make them sound very smart.

Sure, partly. But this is also very entangled with Republican/Democrat politics in the US. I don't pretend to understand it all, but it is a complicated and as I said, messy situation over there.

It must be for funding reasons?

'The media group called an “untangling sex and gender” meeting in April so staff could discuss the way the newspaper covers women’s rights.'

'One former staff member said: “As long as The Guardian bows to Guardian US, I don’t see much changing.”'

Well, we'll see. The US is shifting on these issues in many areas, too. I mean, it's messy and ugly. But this situation won't last forever.