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New sports club at DC’s high school only open to LGBTQ+ pupils and their allies

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SirChenjins · 08/09/2023 10:46

Are they legally allowed to exclude GC pupils? Or pupils who are not one of the special alphabet children?

This is a really great club - nothing like the school has offered before. Seems a shame to limit attendance based on sexuality/gender ideology rather than interest/ability.

We’re in Scotland if that makes a difference.

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SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 12:37

Point to me where I pretended I had*

Here you go
awaits comprehension jibe remark again instead of actually answering

SirChenjins taken your concerns to the school yet?

And you’re back…still asking the same old question that’s been answered and still refusing to answer the many put to you

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MargotBamborough · 21/09/2023 12:34

Yes @AmaryllisNightAndDay.

500 odd posts in and you've finally identified the issue.

This club is for anyone who isn't gender critical.

Being gender critical has been expressly acknowledged in a court of law as being a protected belief, worthy of respect in a democratic society.

You wouldn't be allowed to have a club for "any students who are not Christian" or "any students who are not Muslim". You most certainly wouldn't be allowed to have a club for "any students who are not trans or non binary".

So why is it OK to have a club for "any students who are not gender critical", which is what this club actually is?

SirChenjins · 21/09/2023 12:31

SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 12:23

So have you been to the school then and raised your concerns?
As you still haven't said, despite your attempts to deflect and pretend you have

See my previous posts.

I’m intrigued though - what are your thoughts on the OP and the issues raised throughout the thread? I don’t think you’ve addressed them.

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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 21/09/2023 12:24

He can attend the club as an ally of GC LGB people. Job done.

At a school in Scotland? Not openly he can't.

(There are GC T people too, btw.)

LGBTQ .... It's fairly meaningless really.

And what are the implications of joining a club with "fairly meaningless" entry requirements? Very hard to challenge an authority who decides you don't fit. They may have their own notion of what "allyship" requires.

I wouldn't interpret someone attending that club as someone fully signing up to gender ideology.

Nor would I, people attend for all sorts of reasons. But I would interpret it to mean that it's unwise for anyone attending to expresses any doubts about that ideology. That may change if gender ideology loosens its grip, but at present L, or G, or B, or T, might include GC, but "LGBT and allies" doesn't. That's the label for "not GC".

SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 12:23

So have you been to the school then and raised your concerns?
As you still haven't said, despite your attempts to deflect and pretend you have

SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 12:21

Oh dear

SirChenjins · 21/09/2023 12:15

I know, it was funny watching it fall!

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SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 12:14

😂

SirChenjins · 21/09/2023 12:12

Excellent, I’m glad the penny has finally dropped.

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SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 11:57

Reading comprehension really isn’t your strong point is it
I've read what you put just fine, you're not going to get anywhere trying to gaslight me.

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 21/09/2023 11:56

I don't see why there is an issue here. I am a GC bisexual. There are a lot of GC LGB people. The club doesn't specify which group of LGBTQ+ people you have to be an ally of. He can attend the club as an ally of GC LGB people. Job done.

LGBTQ isn't a monolith. It's fairly meaningless really. I wouldn't interpret someone attending that club as someone fully signing up to gender ideology.

SirChenjins · 21/09/2023 11:44

Reading comprehension really isn’t your strong point is it.

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SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 11:16

That’s right - you’ve read the correct bit. Nothing has changed.
So why say you've answered whether you've been to the school or not when you clearly havent answered at all?

SirChenjins · 21/09/2023 10:22

That’s right - you’ve read the correct bit. Nothing has changed.

So @Perhapsperhapsto what do you do that brings you into contact with all these parents?

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Perhapsperhapsto · 21/09/2023 10:11

I’ve also missed the school
response to OPs complaint, and the part where she names this activity that can’t be done anywhere else.

What difference does it make what activity it is? skating, synchronised diving, snooker, which sport is it okay to only offer to kids with a particular political belief? And can you really not see that naming it is quite outing, or do you think they're are lots of schools restricting niche sports for LGBTQ+ and allies only?

As you are so keen for posters to answer questions put to them, are you going to address the fact that multiple posters have asked you why you keep insinuating that OPs son is homophobic and saying this is a club for gay kids, when it isn't?

SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 10:17

The OP said they're not going to share what the school says if they go to the school (if)
(Which I suppose is up to them)
They have not said whether they've been to the school or not though.
Heavily implies they haven't though and have just come to MN instead for a moan with that word if reappearing a bit in their posts

Perhapsperhapsto · 21/09/2023 10:11

I’ve also missed the school
response to OPs complaint, and the part where she names this activity that can’t be done anywhere else.

SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 09:54

You haven't answered the question @Perhapsperhapsto asked you though about whether you've raised it with the school or not ( the see all OP is a great function) so why pretend you have?

Because why engage in good faith with someone who can't be bothered to listen to anything said, and is mostly here to try and make people shut up about matters they'd prefer were left under carpets to rot quietly.

What part of that have I misunderstood?
It clearly says why engage in good faith so not sure where you get off with the comprehension issues comment?

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Perhapsperhapsto · 21/09/2023 09:42

‘Are you really a teacher? ‘

When did I say I was a teacher? Pretty sure I didn’t.

SirChenjins · 21/09/2023 09:29

Read them again and you’ll find my response to that poster.

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SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 09:26

The see all OP is only a great function if you actually read them all.
I did.
You have not said whether you went to the school or not.

Froodwithatowel · 21/09/2023 09:17

SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 09:15

Well at least you're admitting OP isn't acting in good faith, that's something I suppose.

Oh lord are we really disappearing into playground level stuff now? Or was my post that unclear? Reading comprehension really seems to be a major issue.

SirChenjins · 21/09/2023 09:16

The see all OP is only a great function if you actually read them all.

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SuperNewMe · 21/09/2023 09:15

Well at least you're admitting OP isn't acting in good faith, that's something I suppose.

Froodwithatowel · 21/09/2023 09:12

Because why engage in good faith with someone who can't be bothered to listen to anything said, and is mostly here to try and make people shut up about matters they'd prefer were left under carpets to rot quietly.