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Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th

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KnittingDiva · 07/09/2023 14:35

Anyone else on here planning to attend this?

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ArabeIIaScott · 19/09/2023 19:48

I think Liza is here in a What about the Menz capacity.

Waitwhat23 · 19/09/2023 19:47

ArabeIIaScott · 19/09/2023 19:31

I'll add lesbians and bisexuals to that list, though. Bit shitty to leave them out, imho.

Ooh whoops, Liza you forget about the L and B?

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LizaBizza · 19/09/2023 19:40

IcakethereforeIam · 19/09/2023 19:25

So, to state the bloody obvious.

In an ideal world, yes.

Given what the gender critical in the link said, apparently not unfortunately.

MavisMcMinty · 19/09/2023 19:35

We know gay people exist, and we are not the ones trying to “trans the gay away”, as GIDS clinicians “joked” in Hannah Barnes’ book Time to Think. Have you read that yet, @LizaBizza ? It’s very good, very illuminating, very shocking.

ArabeIIaScott · 19/09/2023 19:31

I'll add lesbians and bisexuals to that list, though. Bit shitty to leave them out, imho.

IcakethereforeIam · 19/09/2023 19:25

So, to state the bloody obvious.

LizaBizza · 19/09/2023 19:23

I'm just here to leave a friendly reminder that gay and trans people exist, and their lives matter :)

MavisMcMinty · 19/09/2023 19:20

Finished your homework, @LizaBizza ? Back for more LOLs with the old women on MN? How peculiar today’s teenagers are.

LizaBizza · 19/09/2023 19:17

Here's an article on what I posted a couple days ago

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/09/19/gender-critical-australia-trans/

Boiledbeetle · 18/09/2023 22:24

DialSquare · 18/09/2023 15:17

You don't know all 60 of my usernames though! 😁

Well that's not fair. You know one of my two other usernames!

Oh... yes I do don't I 😁. I will never tell, not even on pain of death! About your other username that is!

As long as you continue to pay the weekly payment we're good!

ArabeIIaScott · 18/09/2023 16:27

turbonerd · 18/09/2023 14:52

So, mr Brand thought LOJ was like Orwell?

I suppose Orwell didn’t like women much either, then? Nor does mr Brand, it seems. Not in the sense of women being fellow human beings at least.

Well, nothing’s new.

Have very much enjoyed the accounts from those who were there on Saturday. Well done to all of you.

There was recent discussion of Mrs Orwell on here.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/george-orwells-unacknowledged-debt-to-his-wife-eileen/

'[H]is sense of entitlement ... was especially apparent in his attitude to women, on whom he was inclined, almost indiscriminately, to ‘pounce’, forcing sex on them, then angrily reproaching them for not wishing to be raped.'

George Orwell’s unacknowledged debt to his wife Eileen

Anna Funder, the author of Stasiland, is a premier-league writer who can roll fiction, reportage, criticism and memoir into glinting prose, her sentences like handheld treasures you keep turning over, admiring their graceful contours and crafted precis...

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/george-orwells-unacknowledged-debt-to-his-wife-eileen

DialSquare · 18/09/2023 15:17

You don't know all 60 of my usernames though! 😁

Well that's not fair. You know one of my two other usernames!

Datun · 18/09/2023 14:58

Its not at all surprising that misogynists instinctively liken each other.

turbonerd · 18/09/2023 14:52

So, mr Brand thought LOJ was like Orwell?

I suppose Orwell didn’t like women much either, then? Nor does mr Brand, it seems. Not in the sense of women being fellow human beings at least.

Well, nothing’s new.

Have very much enjoyed the accounts from those who were there on Saturday. Well done to all of you.

AflagAhoy · 18/09/2023 13:41

@LizaBizza Do you like PIE?

TheGreatATuin · 18/09/2023 13:38

I will admit to wanting to control the railways. Tickets are far too expensive and its a disgrace that our railways are in the hands of private companies that put profit before people.
But this is from my greenie socialist stance that public transport needs to be better used and more accessible, so I can see how it might be confusing.

TheGreatATuin · 18/09/2023 13:24

As far as I can tell, no one has yet quoted this amazing line from the Barbie film.
Because I think this has to be the go to response every time someone plops on here to squawk 'fascist' at us instead of actually having any kind of coherent point or argument.

Let women speak-Dublin Sept 16th
Grammarnut · 18/09/2023 13:04

Fascism is dictatorship of both capital and labour along with the shutting down of dissenting voices. That does not fit LWS.

DerekFaker · 18/09/2023 13:02

Frizzbee · 18/09/2023 12:16

One of them was Sara Pascoe and another was Aisling Bea, I can't remember the third.

Sara Pascoe was one of the first female comedians calling out male comedians predatory behaviour.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/comedy/news/sara-pascoe-sexual-predators-comedy-b2413083.html

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And what does that have to do with the tweet being discussed?

Grammarnut · 18/09/2023 13:02

CasuirDubh · 16/09/2023 16:06

I don't know, maybe explain why you are fraternizing with fascists?

I don't think you know what fascist means. It involves a dictatorship controlling both capital and labour stringently, and shutting down the opposition, sometimes violently. Don't think LWS fits that discription.

Boiledbeetle · 18/09/2023 13:02

DialSquare · 18/09/2023 11:31

I wouldn't class you as a detractor Boiled, oops I mean Mypeniscalledstella!

You don't know all 60 of my usernames though! 😁

Abhannmor · 18/09/2023 13:00

They have no idea what tf they re talking about anyway.

A good starting point would be the book West Briton by Brian Inglis. Older MN's will recall him as the avuncular narrator of All Our Yesterday's. Very English public school but actually from Malahide County Dublin. The term West Brit gets flung around far too much.

And then the faux nationalist bit. As an unrepentant Fenian and socialist they make me 🤮. I doubt Panti Bliss & co give a monkeys about sectarianism for example. Or the working class for that matter.

ArabeIIaScott · 18/09/2023 12:42

We’re still conflating Moral superiority with nationalism, ‘twas ever thus. And we always get it arseways first.

Interesting echoes of Scotland, there. Or the other way around.

WelcomeToLagos · 18/09/2023 12:29

SoftDay · 18/09/2023 10:43

Unfortunately, there really are some such women. Their number seems larger than it is because they are noisy, somewhat articulate and utterly convinced of their righteousness.

Their particular flavour here in Ireland is interesting. These self-identifying feminists seem incapable of conceptualising that fellow Irish women might have come to a contrary position on gender ideology and trans activism by their own lights, rather than under the malevolent influence of ould-one Brit fash* or, alternatively, a man. Amazing.

*Many of these monstered British women provided financial and logistical support for decades to Irish women forced to travel to Britain for abortions. All forgotten now; they're TERF fash and, even worse than being Brits, they're middle aged.

I must admit I find the West-Brit insult really perplexing.

When I think of the social changes during my life the people who were besmirched with West Brit were (a) Those who wanted to bring in divorce (b) those who campaigned against the 8th (c) Those who wanted gay equality/marriage- the abuse David Norris took back in the day! In every single case the West Brit position was eventually shown to be the one that people wanted, and that was seen as compassionate.

We’re still conflating Moral superiority with nationalism, ‘twas ever thus. And we always get it arseways first.

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