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new to this - What about all the transgender people who are 'living their best lives'?

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lily444 · 04/09/2023 10:49

hi,
I am new to this world - please be patient with me.

When I talk about gender ideology with other people - I peaked a few months ago and now can't stop talking about all this - I get a lot of anecdotal evidence of very happy transgender adults and young people.

I am starting to feel like I'm in a bit of a GC echo chamber and am now doubting myself.

While I realise that this is a very complicated issue, my natural inclination is to see these huge increases in trans identity among young people as a form of self-loathing, inability for self-acceptance, a rigid belief that to change gender would be a rebirth of a different self.. etc etc.

Of course there are transgender people and I do not doubt their existence or expect them to justify their existence to me (I feel like I have to say that or I will be accused of being transphobic).

Are there a vast majority of very happy young people and adults who are delighted with life now that they have transitioned?

Are GC people mainly worried about the vulnerable people who are being caught up in this and who are not truly transgender?

many thanks for reading.....

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PuttingDownRoots · 04/09/2023 11:05

I fully accept that there are plenty of people who are happier living as what they perceive to the "opposite gender". I've met some of them, and they are perfectly nice people.

I have also met some horrid bullies who get a kick out of terrorising women in private spaces. Seperate to that I believe that biology is more important in some circumstances than societal conditioning, which is why separate facilities are needed for some things such as sports, privacy and protection.

In short...People should be able to present as they like while respecting other people.

Maddy70 · 04/09/2023 11:04

Well happy couple don't make headlines
I have a couple of friends who are trans and living in Happy relationships

FroodwithaKaren · 04/09/2023 10:59

My interest in is the retention and accessibility of single sex women's resources available to women who do not have the privilege of being able to use mixed sex services, or simply do not want to. (Women's feelings and wishes not mattering less than Trans people's.) And women not being harassed, assaulted and raped on hospital wards and in prisons in the name of really rather insane male centric politics.

And services not operating from a position of political bias and capture that actively support the removal of women's rights and accessibility, and child safeguarding.

And children not being supported unthinkingly via political and quasi religious beliefs into harming healthy bodies at an age where they cannot understand or consent to what they are doing, and where the agenda of adults may play a heavy part, resulting in an adult in time who may have to live with severe physical health difficulties and regret through adults not having put their protection ahead of their politics.

Beyond that, not really that bothered. Adults can do what they want if they aren't trying to destroy other people's rights.

Stillabitbroken · 04/09/2023 10:59

Speaking for myself, I think my primary concern is for young people and children. The gender affirming hormonal and surgical treatments have such awful associated medical problems that they really should be a last resort, not the first one! In this cohort I think there is little point in specifying whether the patients are transgender or not as there is no formal definition afaik. Everyone deserves better care.