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Ian Hislop is disappointing

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RoyalCorgi · 24/08/2023 20:02

Glinner's latest substack mentions that the new issue of Private Eye makes a dig at him for being "unhinged" on Twitter. Glinner then reveals that four years ago he emailed Ian Hislop asking him to cover the subject of SH, and politely explaining the issues. This is the reply Hislop sent:

Dear Graham,
Hello. Thanks for the messages and for alerting me to the activities of Hayden and Bergdorf. Despite my well known belief that Twitter drives everyone bonkers and my suspicion that the Trans/TERF debate is not quite as important as those involved in it believe, I do have people looking at the issues, the areas of impact in the real world, and I will pass on your information to them. “The oxygen of publicity” is always a possible side-effect of the “letting in of sunlight” but as I say I am grateful to you for the guidance. Hope that you are ok somewhere in the social media swamp.
Best,

I've always liked Private Eye and hoped that Hislop was privately gc, even if the subject didn't feature much in the mag. (Deputy editor Francis Wheen was very gc but has now retired.)

So that's a shame.

Here's Glinner's full post:

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/ian-hislop-knew

Ian Hislop knew

Private Eye had the cheek to call me ‘unhinged’ today, misrepresenting my opinions on such figures as John Money and Jacob Breslow as a sort of Tourette’s where I’m calling everyone a ‘nonce’. I wrote to Ian Hislop in 2019, once again foolishly thinkin...

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/ian-hislop-knew

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MorrisZapp · 24/08/2023 20:53

Private Eye have run lots of GC cartoons and snippets though haven't they?

RealityFan · 24/08/2023 20:50

I can't tell you the number of men who just don't "get it".

Not that they're TRA adjacent or full on sympathetic. Indeed no men I know think this is normal in any way.

But many are just not bothered. It doesn't affect them...even women IDing as men doesn't register because only vanishingly few transmen are rivals or impediments to men in any social sphere.

So many men don't go for the philosophy, but since it's below them as a stress or everyday issue, they just let it go. No hardened opinion. No emotion. Nothing.

Whether Ian Hislop is one of those, who knows. I suspect it's a mix of below his attention and awareness that speaking out costs him socially and financially.

So much easier to attack the Tories, SNP, Brexit, vaxx deniers, and all the idiots featured in the Eye and HIGNFY. This is what gets you social status, the attention of men and women, and his stock relevant.

Take Glinner's side? What's in it for Hislop? Nothing except pain and reduced profits and social status.

Part of my reconciling the advance of this philosophy is realising that there are so many reasons why so many who are not likely TRAs will not speak out.

For some, it's pure fear and anxiety... JKR has the reputation, fortune and "who gives a fuck?!" attitude, but Glinner has been eviscerated...who amongst us if in the public eye could really tolerate canceling?

For others, it's a mix of not giving a shit, it doesn't directly impinge them, again why would you risk the shunning for an opinion that only guides the Sword of Damacles over your neck...and not giving a shit is the default for most humans.

Litgirl7 · 24/08/2023 20:46

I too am very disappointed by Private Eye & Hislop's inaction & trite dismissal. It smacks of public schoolboy dismissal of women full stop as though women are concerned in some sort of trivial, pearl clutching hysteria which they, the sensible lads, see through as inconsequential nonsense. This hardly has the thrust of sound, keen journalism alert to irretrievable change that is fundamentally threatening to basic rights. In short, what many look to PE to examine & interrogate.

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