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Cheryl Hole on LGBTQ representation

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ArabeIIaKarenScott · 16/08/2023 09:47

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-66513419

'Cheryl has promised to "bring the glamour" to the kitchen but has also been "cooking my little Essex bum off" in preparation.
She added like every Essex girl she is a lover of a chippy at the end of a night out and always had a hankering for a battered sausage or saveloy.'

Cheryl Hole in the Masterchef kitchen

Celebrity MasterChef: Cheryl Hole on why LGBTQ+ representation is important

The drag star says being on Celebrity MasterChef is a way to have voices of the LGBTQ+ community heard.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-66513419?at_bbc_team=editorial&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_campaign_type=owned&at_format=link&at_link_id=8EA99BA6-3BF5-11EE-BCF0-209FED5F52B7&at_link_origin=BBCNews&at_link_type=web_link&at_medium=social&at_ptr_name=twitter&xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D

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Mollyollydolly · 17/08/2023 00:45

I caught the end of it tonight, he set both dogs off barking with his screaming at the end. Dogs aren't stupid. I don't understand how drag Queens are suddenly women, why are they all calling him 'she'. He's a drag act surely he's not claiming to be a woman is he?

Charley50 · 16/08/2023 23:50

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/08/2023 12:26

I read that article with my eyebrows at my hairline

  1. why is he doing a reality show in character, the weirdo?

  2. why has he got such a horrible name?

  3. why the fuck is he wittering about sausages? Is it ‘cheeky’?

  4. why is this offensive bullshit on before the watershed?

  5. why do I still pay my tv licence again? (Oh yes, Radcliffe and Maconie, the end)

argh

Don't need a TV licence to listen to the radio...

Grimchmas · 16/08/2023 23:27

All I will say is people clearly don’t understand the art form of drag and it’s celebration of women.

That's just about the most gaslighting thing I've ever read.

GrandMarnierChocolate · 16/08/2023 22:54

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Cheryl Hole on LGBTQ representation
GrandMarnierChocolate · 16/08/2023 22:48

Here's La Big Bertha who appeared on a French TV cookery show a little while back. I complained. Heard nothing back. In case you can't see the costume, it shows the cuts of meat. Basically, a big cow with a big cow name mocking women. The presenter is black, I wonder if they'd invite someone sporting Blackface on... (can't manage to post my pic)

GrandMarnierChocolate · 16/08/2023 22:47

Test

Heliotroper · 16/08/2023 22:38

drhf · 16/08/2023 09:59

Sam Fox is also appearing in Celebrity MasterChef.

But of course a middle aged lesbian, however beautiful, even one who has spoken publicly about how difficult she found it to acknowledge her own orientation, is much less exciting and glamorous than a drag queen.

Especially a drag queen whose stage name is misogynistic and offensive to the person whose image is being pastiched, and whose act prominently features misogynistic stereotypes.

Excellent point

It seems what on the BBC lesbians do not represent the LGBTQ+ community

SamW98 · 16/08/2023 22:37

And why oh why did John snd Greg say ‘let’s talk about the 3 girls’ - and include Cheryl?

Form1ess · 16/08/2023 22:36

DiceLadder · 16/08/2023 14:58

I'm surprised drag hasn't been cancelled for being offensive yet.
You'd think a man dressing up as a woman as a joke would be seen as offensive to men dressing up as women but wanting it to be serious.

Way back in 2015 Free Pride in Glasgow banned drag queens due to trans complaints but were forced to do a U-turn. I wonder why/when the rapprochement happened?

Appleofmyeye2023 · 16/08/2023 22:35

I just sent a complaint, needs a large volume to get anywhere

LizzieSiddal · 16/08/2023 22:27

I’m so glad he’s gone. I can watch the rest of this week without wanting to hurl something at the tele.

The other contestants are all fabulous. Sam’s sister was dying as she was filming this show, so I really hope she does well.

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ArabeIIaKarenScott · 16/08/2023 22:22

Well, good.

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littlbrowndog · 16/08/2023 22:22

Cheryl got the boot. And shrieked like a banshee as leaving. Bye 🤣🤣

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ArabeIIaKarenScott · 16/08/2023 22:21

https://twitter.com/CherylHoleQueen/status/1691889089790783786

'All I will say is people clearly don’t understand the art form of drag and it’s celebration of women. Women shaped me into the person I am today either through music, their words of wisdom or support. In no way do we mock women at all, so to throw that argument at me is in vain.'

'People can continue to hurl abuse at me, liken my work to “woman face” but at the end of the day. This has all stemmed from me speaking up and using my platform on the hate that is directed to our community. And you’ve proved everyone right.'

'Please enjoy tonight’s episode. Remember it’s a light hearted entertainment cooking show. I’m not doing anything other than using a few pots and pans & an oven. I’ll see you all on the other side'

If you are not mocking women, Cheryl, perhaps you can talk us through why you use the name 'Hole'?

https://twitter.com/CherylHoleQueen/status/1691889089790783786

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PurpleBugz · 16/08/2023 22:18

Saw this and thought of this thread.

x.com/bigbillmoon/status/1691735856594157812?s=46

PTSDBarbiegirl · 16/08/2023 22:04

ArabeIIaKarenScott · 16/08/2023 11:56

'The drag name is based on the artist Cheryl, formerly known as Cheryl Cole. Cheryl Hole has been quoted as saying, “My drag name comes from the icon and Geordie princess Cheryl Cole. Cheryl have inspired so much of my life” which we don’t agree would be interpreted by the majority as^^ misogynist. Instead, it’s cheeky play on words which could be explained as such in a family setting and so we saw no reason to exclude her from the show.'

A 'cheeky' play on words? How is it 'cheeky'? What is the pun referring to, so that I can explain it 'in a family setting'.

I want these fuckers to spell it out.

This!!
Its all just so fucking boring. Woman hating, sex clown bullies, masquerading as "she" and being enabled to sexualise a fucking cheese sandwich while simulating oral sex with John bloody Torode. Just fuck off.

SamW98 · 16/08/2023 21:50

I’m happy to see Sam Fox a middle aged married openly gay woman who just gets on with it without making a big song and dance.

PorcelinaV · 16/08/2023 21:48

WiltingAtTreadmills · 16/08/2023 12:47

I know you can say this about most television in 2023 but this is literally from Alan Partridge - cook with Fanny Thomas on the Christmas Knowing Me, Knowing You, nearly 30 years ago.

Alan Partridge Punches Guests Live On TV - Knowing Me Knowing Yule - BBC

It's near the end of the show and it seems like Alan is not only beginning to lose control of his guests but his temper also.Taken From the Christmas Special...

https://youtu.be/Bk-yXi0fIF8?si=3dRVNk8nh8qCHjZs

FroodwithaKaren · 16/08/2023 21:23

Why does Master Chef now have to have a compulsory drag person on every series? Why just one, and every single time? It looks beyond tick boxy rather than genuine.

Done our inclusiveness and ramming of righteousness down the plebs faces <tick>

PatatiPatatras · 16/08/2023 20:49

Wasn't there a poster about a year ago arguing that drag was an art form and could be explained to children because you take your costume off at the end of the day, or was it supposed to be like santa or the tooth fairy?
And it really didn't have anything to do with the T, never mind the lgb...

Yeah... yeah...

Saltovinegar · 16/08/2023 19:13

I put a star in for the S but it hasn't appeared in my post, I'm sure people get my drift though....

Saltovinegar · 16/08/2023 19:12

They might as well go the whole way and just call themselves Are Hole or Big Are Hole to be exact!

BabyStopCryin · 16/08/2023 18:49

Jamelia? Oh Lord above. 😳

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/08/2023 17:30

Something something Tudor times something

mumda · 16/08/2023 17:28

Womenface is acceptable but blackface is not.

Why?