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Cheryl Hole on LGBTQ representation

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ArabeIIaKarenScott · 16/08/2023 09:47

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-66513419

'Cheryl has promised to "bring the glamour" to the kitchen but has also been "cooking my little Essex bum off" in preparation.
She added like every Essex girl she is a lover of a chippy at the end of a night out and always had a hankering for a battered sausage or saveloy.'

Cheryl Hole in the Masterchef kitchen

Celebrity MasterChef: Cheryl Hole on why LGBTQ+ representation is important

The drag star says being on Celebrity MasterChef is a way to have voices of the LGBTQ+ community heard.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-66513419?at_bbc_team=editorial&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_campaign_type=owned&at_format=link&at_link_id=8EA99BA6-3BF5-11EE-BCF0-209FED5F52B7&at_link_origin=BBCNews&at_link_type=web_link&at_medium=social&at_ptr_name=twitter&xtor=AL-72-%5Bpartner%5D-%5Bbbc.news.twitter%5D-%5Bheadline%5D-%5Bnews%5D-%5Bbizdev%5D-%5Bisapi%5D

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PorcelinaV · 16/08/2023 12:59

Unless you're a sports fan, I doubt there is anything on live TV (or iplayer) that is worth paying a TV licence for.

Idratherbepaddleboarding · 16/08/2023 12:57

I don’t really care about men wearing so called “women’s clothes” (although women don’t dress like that!) as long as they’re not claiming to be a woman, but fucking hell that name is so offensive. And actually very typical of that horrible, laddish “every hole’s a goal” attitude, not very lady like!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/08/2023 12:49

I know that in the scheme of things this is small fry. But I pay for a number of streaming services

the BBC are both the most expensive and the shittest

they’re also the only one who could arrange to have my collar felt if I unsubscribe

why should I put up with this antediluvian sexist bullshit? Sorry, I of course mean cheeky bantz

WiltingAtTreadmills · 16/08/2023 12:47

I know you can say this about most television in 2023 but this is literally from Alan Partridge - cook with Fanny Thomas on the Christmas Knowing Me, Knowing You, nearly 30 years ago.

Cheryl Hole on LGBTQ representation
ArabeIIaKarenScott · 16/08/2023 12:45

It's Bernard Nonmanning, Bernard.

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/08/2023 12:44

I’ve complained. I just can’t believe that in 2023 the BBC are doing ‘women are just holes! They like sausages because they like penises!’

has Bernard Manning risen from the dead and been made controller of BBC1?

ArabeIIaKarenScott · 16/08/2023 12:33

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/08/2023 12:29

Are penis jokes more funny if the person who made them is a man dressed like little miss muffet and sporting a stuffed bra?

just trying to figure out at what point I should laugh

Oh, they're not FUNNY. They're INCLUSIVE.

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loislovesstewie · 16/08/2023 12:31

I have complained, I'm expecting nothing sensible.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/08/2023 12:29

Are penis jokes more funny if the person who made them is a man dressed like little miss muffet and sporting a stuffed bra?

just trying to figure out at what point I should laugh

ArabeIIaKarenScott · 16/08/2023 12:27

why the fuck is he wittering about sausages? Is it ‘cheeky’?

Yes, because, do you see, sausages are shaped like penises! So his entire schtick revolves around hiliarious family friendly jokes about genitals! God, how we laughed.

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/08/2023 12:27

the BBC just DO NOT GET IT do they?

we are obliged by law to pay for them. They’re not at liberty to push any sexist queer theory bullshit agenda they feel like

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 16/08/2023 12:26

I read that article with my eyebrows at my hairline

  1. why is he doing a reality show in character, the weirdo?

  2. why has he got such a horrible name?

  3. why the fuck is he wittering about sausages? Is it ‘cheeky’?

  4. why is this offensive bullshit on before the watershed?

  5. why do I still pay my tv licence again? (Oh yes, Radcliffe and Maconie, the end)

argh

CurlewKate · 16/08/2023 12:23

@ArabeIIaKarenScott "A 'cheeky' play on words? How is it 'cheeky'? What is the pun referring to, so that I can explain it 'in a family setting'

Could you ask them that? I think focussing on the name is the important thing here-don't give them any wriggle room to avoid the question and focus on the drag aspect.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2023 12:03

The first response I got was basically a history of drag.

How tedious.

NeedToKnow101 · 16/08/2023 11:59

I would sue if I was the actual Cheryl. It's so nasty and misogynistic and reducing women in general, and her in particular, to holes.

ArabeIIaKarenScott · 16/08/2023 11:57

'You see, darling, some people refer to women as 'holes', and this man is pretending to be a woman called 'Cheryl COLE' so he's changed it to HOLE!!! Isn't that just cheeky and daring and hiLARIOUS?'

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ArabeIIaKarenScott · 16/08/2023 11:56

'The drag name is based on the artist Cheryl, formerly known as Cheryl Cole. Cheryl Hole has been quoted as saying, “My drag name comes from the icon and Geordie princess Cheryl Cole. Cheryl have inspired so much of my life” which we don’t agree would be interpreted by the majority as^^ misogynist. Instead, it’s cheeky play on words which could be explained as such in a family setting and so we saw no reason to exclude her from the show.'

A 'cheeky' play on words? How is it 'cheeky'? What is the pun referring to, so that I can explain it 'in a family setting'.

I want these fuckers to spell it out.

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CurlewKate · 16/08/2023 11:52

When I made my complaint I made it very clear that it was the name I objected to. The first response I got was basically a history of drag. I clarified my complaint-to be told that the name was a cheeky play on words entirely suitable for a family audience. I don't get a 3rd go!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 16/08/2023 11:52

I know - no one else comes in “in character”

BabyStopCryin · 16/08/2023 11:51

Why doesn’t the man come in, minus the ‘act’ and cook. Actors come onto the show and don’t feel the need to pretend to be Dr Who or Mr Tumble (or whatever).

Theeyeballsinthesky · 16/08/2023 11:39

@D1nopawus im amazed that wasn’t a DW on this years strictly

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/08/2023 11:35

Seeing as I have no idea who Cheryl Cole is

She was in Girls Aloud, married a footballer, Ashley Cole.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheryl_(singer)

GrandmaMazur · 16/08/2023 11:34

Masterchef has had several MtF trans people and drag acts over the last few years including the ex-boxing manager who had admitted to trying to strangle his wife.

There is/was a DJ on it this year I’ve never heard of who John Torode refers to as she but who looks, dresses and very much behaves like a he. It’s very tedious. And not least doesn’t seem particularly representative of UK demographics.

D1nopawus · 16/08/2023 11:28

I’ve assumed for a while to be honest that a Drag person is a requirement for BBC “celebrity” shows. What I’ve yet to work out as if they have their own category or a included within the women category.

Still gotta preserve the status of white men, I guess.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 16/08/2023 11:02

There was a DQ on celebrity masterchef last year as well

exceptionally irritating that they referred to them as she all the time but nowhere as irritating as the entire “ooooooh they fancy John torode & John secretly fancies them back” narrative that went out