Lesbian speed dating event accused of transphobia for not allowing men

I think bi people get pressured to say they, because they like men and women, should accept trans people as sexual partners in way that is arguably just as bad as this issue of lesbians and trans women.

What you are attracted to is both biological sexes, and the difference. Trans people are making themselves something else, a simulacrum of the sex they want to be. That is appearance, not sexuality, and it does not come with all great things about biological sex. As human beings, we are attracted to biology, and that is just not only what you look like.

Sex is not something that female people are born with a duty to provide on a social justice system, training themselves to overcome their feelings while lying back and thinking of Stonewall.

Fgs.

Women are as entitled to enjoy sex as men are. And women should run a bloody mile from any prospective sexual partner of any sex or identity, where that partner is not fully interested in and caring about their consent, their pleasure, their equality in the relationship.

This is women being trained into abandoning their autonomy over their feelings and their bodies in order to service the wishes of male people, despite the fact that any male person wishing for this is dodgier than fuck and the kind of person Lundy Bancroft writes books about. Wake up ffs. Re read the pinned thread at the top of the relationships board: You deserve a loving partner who meets your needs equally and with enjoyment, being born female did not land you with a duty to take the shitty end of the stick so that those born male can fuck about without feeling bad about it.

@Blondebutnotlegally I'm bi and I'm not attracted to trans identifying people either.

We need to stop apologising for that. There's nothing wrong with having a preference.

Why? Don't feel guilty. We are allowed to be attracted to whoever we want, and we aren't obliged to be attracted to ppl we're not attracted to.

In my observations, most transmen are lesbians - mutilated ones - but still females interested in other females.

Sorry TW and TM

I even find this difficult as a bi woman. (Pre marriage) I would happily have sex with men and women, but TW and TW I don't find sexually attractive. This feels a lot like subconscious bias though and I do feel guilty

She's held events there for 4.5 years. The pub has been perfectly happy to host them. But now a couple of angry men have been told it's women only, they've set up a bullying and harassment campaign and got it closed down.

Shocking homophobia.

You need to check out OJ’s response to him being “interested” in a transman. He is a gay man with most definite views about it…

Surely she has a pretty good case for direct discrimination?

Maybe worth writing to EHRC, Sex Matters, etc.

For reasons I won’t go into, I know quite a lot of gay male paramedics/ambulance crew. If they ever have to deliver a baby they are fighting off vomiting just from having to be that close to a vagina.

What an absolutely absurd thing to say.

If she can face it, Jenny Watson should take the pub chain to court. Or at least send a solicitor's letter, quoting Julie Bindel's and Joanna Cherry's cases. We have to show that we will be at least as much of a PITA as the gender zealots and that the law is on our side.

This pub:

https://www.crafted-social.co.uk/college-arms-bloomsbury/food-and-drink

This chain:

https://www.stonegategroup.co.uk/

The organiser has posted on Twitter that the pub has stopped the speed dating nights. They're a massive chain.

Same.

OwningAllMyMistakes is clearly rather poor at recognising their mistakes - and their homophobia.

@FFSWhatToDoNow "For reasons I won’t go into, I know quite a lot of gay male paramedics/ambulance crew. If they ever have to deliver a baby they are fighting off vomiting just from having to be that close to a vagina. There’s absolutely no way they would go near one for fun!"

What absolute bollocks. And so offensive to gay men.

I find this unbelievable offensive and actually unbelievable.

In a 2019 study, only 3.1% of straight (and non-trans) people were willing to date a trans person.

A summary of the study by the main author (Karen Blair) has this conclusion: We won’t be able to say, as a society, that we are accepting of trans citizens until they are also included within our prospective dating pools; at the very least, on a hypothetical basis.

So, not only must everyone accept that TWAW/TMAM in schools, toilets, hospitals, refuges, prisons, short lists, sport etc but that ‘acceptance’ must also extend to having sex with them.

It is beyond belief that academics such as Karen Blair firstly propagate this thinking and secondly, fail to see how their argument is totalitarian ‘right think’ as well as deeply deeply disturbing.

What the fuck, then they're ridiculous or being hyperbolic to be 'humorous'. Genuinely if someone is that repulsed by genitalia encountered in a healthcare setting then they should find a new job.

Dear lord.

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