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swimsong · 14/08/2023 09:01

OwningAllMyMistakes · 13/08/2023 07:20

I would add that from little knowledge and experience I have of transmen gay men wouldn’t be put off by a trans man with a vagina.

That is really very, very little knowledge. Practically microscopic.

GameOverBoys · 14/08/2023 07:58

There are trans inclusive events for people presenting as women so there is no need for anyone to crash a female only lesbian event. The person with a visible errection was not looking for love, in the same way a flasher is not looking for a reciprocal sexual encounter. It is about imposing themselves and causing upset.
Sexuality is complex and I’m sure some women would be happy to date a genuine trans women who is just getting on with her life, trying to pass and not cause any issues.
We have a mixture of female only and trans inclusive events, which seems like the right balance. The police need to believe women and get involved when these obvious sexual predators target any event.

fromorbit · 14/08/2023 07:29

Essential watch.

Watch Jenny and Kate from LGBA give more info on GB News. Turns out the pub manager is a massive bigot and they have this on record insulting "terfs".

Kind of want this to go to court so people can see the level of homophobic abuse going on here. Not sure if they are going to pursue legal action though.

Lesbian group shut down for banning trans-identifying male | 'We just want to feel safe!'

'We just want lesbians to be safe during these events, that's all there is to it.'Jennie Watson's regular lesbian speed-dating event was shut down by activis...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMIvcYNo2Zo

ChokkaQuokka · 14/08/2023 01:00

I’d be wary of expecting these rejected males to take it on the, er, chin.

you might recall the story of Evie Amati, the trans 7-11 axe attacker in Sydney. What didn’t get reported in detail was that the attack occurred the night a date with a lesbian didn’t go according to Amati’s hopes. The link is a buzzfeed story but even that shows that this was a story of what happens when lesbians try to Be Kind but not too kind. It’s not enough for the Amatis of the world and three complete strangers nearly lost their lives as a consequence.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/lanesainty/evie-amati-trial-tinder-date-freaked-out-over-message#

A Woman Who Met The Accused Axe Attacker On Tinder Says She "Freaked Out" Over Scary Messages

“Then I blocked her on Facebook. It scared me, I was freaking out."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/lanesainty/evie-amati-trial-tinder-date-freaked-out-over-message#

PorcelinaV · 13/08/2023 22:31

It will be interesting to see if Stonewall take a position on this.

Do they really want to go on record calling lesbians "sexual racists"?

CrazyArmadilloLady · 13/08/2023 21:54

This whole situation so neatly encapsulates just how misogynistic and homophobic the gender ideologues are.

I hope it peaks more people.

Just a reminder for anyone who doesn’t quite get / see it: trans activism is about prioritising men’s feeling and wishes over everyone and everything else - but especially the rights, safety and dignity of women, gay people and children.

That this is seen as ‘progressive’ - men’s (inevitably straight men’s) feelings and wishes prioritised over women, gay people and minors - is the Emperor’s new clothes (a story we all laughed incredulously at as children) brought to life.

The patriarchy in all its age-old glory.

EsmaCannonball · 13/08/2023 21:49

Spoiling things for women is what gives these men a thrill. If they can't have it, they can still wreck it.

PatatiPatatras · 13/08/2023 21:38

viques · 13/08/2023 20:36

But can you imagine his sad little face at the end of the evening when he realises that no one, absolutely no one , has indicated that they want to meet him again? Amongst the lively buzz of women having a good time he realises that no one has spoken to him all night, even when he offered them tampons and a lend of his lip liner in the toilets . Can you envisage the lonely walk home, opening the door to his empty bed sit, staring at the discarded outfits strewn on the floor, remembering the excitement of getting ready just a few hours previously , carefully applying the makeup, getting the contouring just right, choosing the right clothes, (not too tarty, but just a bit revealing) , practising his one liners to make sure they hit the right note…… and all for nothing because those trans hating lezzers don’t appreciate men with dicks sorry , othered women. Terfs the lot of them, deserve to be punched…….

Tut tut.
I'm sure that walk home was nursing a raging euphoria boner.
caused by reminiscing over all those women who despite their rejection had no choice but to find themselves in his realm. The less they want him, the more certain he is of returning to dominate them all.
He'll definitely be back next week to see them squirm, under his gaze.

Hepwo · 13/08/2023 21:37

So men get to decide if women can meet or not?

Have these men time travelled from the Victorian era to put us in our place?

Sounds like it to me.

Anxioys · 13/08/2023 21:34

@MavisMcMinty - yes an odd feeling!

I hope they find a new venue.

MavisMcMinty · 13/08/2023 21:26

Thanks for the link to Andrew Doyle - and I see Sharron Davies was up next! How bizarre to find myself enjoying GB News.

MavisMcMinty · 13/08/2023 20:59

viques · 13/08/2023 20:36

But can you imagine his sad little face at the end of the evening when he realises that no one, absolutely no one , has indicated that they want to meet him again? Amongst the lively buzz of women having a good time he realises that no one has spoken to him all night, even when he offered them tampons and a lend of his lip liner in the toilets . Can you envisage the lonely walk home, opening the door to his empty bed sit, staring at the discarded outfits strewn on the floor, remembering the excitement of getting ready just a few hours previously , carefully applying the makeup, getting the contouring just right, choosing the right clothes, (not too tarty, but just a bit revealing) , practising his one liners to make sure they hit the right note…… and all for nothing because those trans hating lezzers don’t appreciate men with dicks sorry , othered women. Terfs the lot of them, deserve to be punched…….

I actually felt sad reading that… until I got to the end. How #BeKind I almost was!

Snowypeaks · 13/08/2023 20:52

@viques and @RealityFan respectively...
😂😂

RealityFan · 13/08/2023 20:38

Hey, I'm a guy who got rejected by all my potential suitors at a speed dating event in Central London.

I remember feeling at the time I never wanted another guy to ever go thru what I did that night.

Until now.

viques · 13/08/2023 20:36

But can you imagine his sad little face at the end of the evening when he realises that no one, absolutely no one , has indicated that they want to meet him again? Amongst the lively buzz of women having a good time he realises that no one has spoken to him all night, even when he offered them tampons and a lend of his lip liner in the toilets . Can you envisage the lonely walk home, opening the door to his empty bed sit, staring at the discarded outfits strewn on the floor, remembering the excitement of getting ready just a few hours previously , carefully applying the makeup, getting the contouring just right, choosing the right clothes, (not too tarty, but just a bit revealing) , practising his one liners to make sure they hit the right note…… and all for nothing because those trans hating lezzers don’t appreciate men with dicks sorry , othered women. Terfs the lot of them, deserve to be punched…….

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 13/08/2023 20:21

Really good to see LGBA standing up for lesbians

I hope they make the pub regret being spineless dicks

DaphneDeloresMoreheadRidesOn · 13/08/2023 20:21

What I don't really understand is this.
dont TWAW seek validation as women ? And to my mind wouldn't this mean that, in their minds, that the ultimate expression of femininity and "passing" would be to be to be wholly accepted sexually as a woman by a straight man ?

so why do they want to be lesbians ? Why aren't straight men getting gyp for not wanting to have sex with TW ? I don't see any rage

nb. This is a faux-naive question. We all know why.

QueenHippolyta · 13/08/2023 18:59

In the US Michfest and it's demise was the harbinger of the destruction of the Lesbian community aided and abetted by the gay gender studies graduates who threw away the beautiful tribute to Sappho; 'Lesbian' for inclusive 'Queer'.
At least young women now are standing up and rebuilding and LGBAlliance are there with the knowledge and experience to help them.

Honestly I think we need 40 minute daily sessions where women practice yelling;
"Fuck off, this is a woman only space. Fuck being kind."

fromorbit · 13/08/2023 17:37

Anxioys · 13/08/2023 17:15

LGB Alliance literally doing Stonewall's old job, good to see.

Not surprising considering who is in LGBA. Loads of older pre-TRA Stonewall activists. The ones who won gay rights first time round.

Of course those activists are old pros at fighting homophobia. Which is why we can expect Stonegate to either back down, or have to put up with a tonne of bad publicity.

RealityFan · 13/08/2023 17:25

Anxioys · 13/08/2023 17:15

LGB Alliance literally doing Stonewall's old job, good to see.

Men pretending their women who are lesbians.
LGBA doing the job of Stonewall.

Boot on the other foot, or what?

ArabeIIaScott · 13/08/2023 17:16

And for anyone who would like to write to their MP ....

Anxioys · 13/08/2023 17:15

LGB Alliance literally doing Stonewall's old job, good to see.

fromorbit · 13/08/2023 17:08

Oh interesting it seems the College Arms in Bloomsbury is in fact in Kier Starmer's constituency. Since he has recently worked out women exist does this mean he knows lesbians exist too and they can date each other? An interesting question for interviewers.

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