Lesbian speed dating event accused of transphobia for not allowing men

Jenny appeared on TalkTV:
https://twitter.com/TalkTV/status/1693548498912977193

Interview with Julie Bindel where Jenny gets a chance to talk without pressure and talks more about the threat to her job [she works in a council planning department ] :
https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/do-lesbians-have-penises#details

Jenny has a page where she sells stickers, badges and shirts:
https://twitter.com/XXclusivelondon

Still unclear where we are on legal action so keep your gardening tools handy. There seems to be a bunch of evidence this is a targeted homophobic attack. Hopefully LGBA is working on building a court case, especially against the first venue where the manager was involved, there seems plenty to work on.

Doesn't she work for a local authority?

Its a massive stretch to think this is bringing a local authority into disrepute! Nonsense.

They serve EVERYONE.

I do hope that the outcome of the 'HR investigation' is that they recommend Jenny is included in advising on diversity etc in the company.

If they shit on her in any way, that'll bring them into disrepute with many more people than it would please.

Same here. I wasn't there long, for various reasons, but they had a similar and quite reasonable clause in the contract. The only times I've heard of clauses which forbid any outside work were for people who worked in outrageously well paid jobs where they basically own you. It was a long time ago so maybe things have changed.

One place I used to work, they were okay with 2nd jobs as long as they weren't in competition or could use the main job to tout for work. But this was in the days before SM. And obviously not using any job supplies, time, contacts, etc. for your side hustle.

One offs wouldn’t count, and there is an argument about being self employed but i suppose if you’re always knackered for work because you spend every night seeing dresses to sell at craft fairs at the weekend, your employer is entitled to be concerned about that.

if you’re in a role where lives literally depend on you being alert, they won’t want you risking that with additional unlimited employed or volunteering activity.

Volunteering isn’t work.

I work for a charity, and yes, employers do put limits on how much volunteering people can do for their well-being/safety. I’m ex-St John and NHS/police/fire services do put limits on how much their employees can work. Nobody wants them working 4 12+ hour shifts, volunteering for 30 hours at the weekend then back to work on Monday.

@FFSWhatToDoNow Wow - can employers also stop you volunteering then, or define any activity you do for a hobby but also make money from as "work". Not allowed to sell your knitting or make a dress for anyone else at your dressmaking class. Not allowed any fun activity at all if you make money from it?

St John's Ambulance will collapse as it relies heavily on NHS staff.

Working Time Directive outs responsibility on employers to ensure their employees aren’t breaching hours or work break requirements.

Have any organisations commented on this other than the LGBA?

Are any on the trans-activist side openly supporting lesbians being forced to include biological males for dating?

But in any case that would just be their face-saving excuse, because nobody knew where Jenny works so she can't have been said to be bringing her employer's reputation down.

Bit cheeky unless you're paying £££ in my opinion.

We're going to have to bring court case after court case, until organisations have to be aware that they can't discriminate for gender critical beliefs any more than they could refuse to employ a black or gay person.

Exactly @Ereshkigalangcleg

But it does make me wonder, as Kate Harris of LGBA said, just what really good things all this money that (mostly) women are raising could have been better spent - on supporting lesbians and gay men in various countries where they are in danger, for example. Lobbying those governments, for example.

Instead, we are having to support comrades in a supposed liberal democracy, for speaking about scientific fact, and same-sex attraction.

Secondary work policies are common.

indeed, if the HR dept have drunk the koolaid they could be stepping into shark-infested waters here depending on what they are investigating.

@FFSWhatToDoNow
Tricky for the employers if it wasn't Jenny that brought her work into it. If the gender zealots found out where she worked and contacted her employers, triggering an HR investigation, I can't see that being a goer in a tribunal. Especially since what she is doing is lawful and not immoral. Maybe if the terms of her employment do not permit her to do other work but I would think that is unlikely.

Absolutely agree. But they could steer away from the subject matter by just making it about public links to her job at a time when the media were scrutinising her.

I’m not saying that’s right, but it wouldn’t be illegal.

This.

Their immediate reaction to TRA threats has to be no. And if gets worse no, and fuck off. Followed by pollce involvement.

Yes me too. We're going to have to bring court case after court case, until organisations have to be aware that they can't discriminate for gender critical beliefs any more than they could refuse to employ a black or gay person.

deffo up for gardening. It's a lovely day to plant.

Well if she wants to sue the venue or her if she needs to sue her employer I'm up for a spot of gardening. I would hope LGB Alliance might be on this, helping direct her to previous legal cases and support.

This is horrific.

Is there a way we can support Jenny?

It’s likely to be “bringing the organisation into disrepute”

That's not a free pass to discriminate against people.

It’s likely to be “bringing the organisation into disrepute” if the online scrapping has been on accounts that identify where she works.

I would hope this is an investigation intended to clear her name……

This isn’t OK. I don’t understand why there isn’t an uproar over this.

It honestly feels like something out of A Handmaid’s Tale. But it’s real life.