Lesbian speed dating event accused of transphobia for not allowing men

@AlisonDonut than you for posting that video. I'd seen most of the clips before but she's a really good presenter!

It is useful to transwomen to state no transwomen at the event rather than just feeling rejected and perhaps not knowing why.

The man in the purple latex or the other man pressing against a women in the toilets do not sound like genuine transwomen looking for a date. I expect other events are on offer elsewhere.

Lesbians not wanting to date someone with a penis is not transphobic.

No but i can damn well tell when some was born with a prostate. If it looks male, sounds like a male and walks like a male then you can bet your arse it is male.

This one cracked me up!
The whole alphabet soup is in there, so tell me who can not come in?

Keep feeling yourself that and you’ll think your ok but I’m not sure you are ?but I’ll be my left leg a gay man wouldn’t be put off by a transman.

Out of interest, do you also think straight women wouldn't be put off by a trans man's vagina? Or is it just gay people whose sexuality you deny?

But also, it makes me wonder how ridiculous matters have got when this event may have issues, but a gender critical dating event would not, for example. The second would have some measure of legal protection because it would be a group with a belief.

That's genius!!

A gender critical, woman only speed dating evening.

Heads will explode.

And yes, it's legally protected.

Visible erections are a bit of a “tell” doncha think? If not, the Adams apple might give it away. Unless you are one of these people who claim that they can’t tell someone’s sex.

The question is why do some transwomen want to force unwilling women to date them. It would be like me going into a gay bar and accusing the men of having a genital fetish because they’re gay.

It’s not usually hard to tell if someone’s a ‘penis-haver’, even the rare ones who have had their penis removed. First there are all the physical clues, then there’s the overpowering sense of male entitlement.

@loislovesstewie
Actually, may I just say that ANYONE, can refuse to have sex/be in a romantic relationship with any other person for ANY reason or NO reason at all.
Just to be clear, a lesbian doesn't have a penis, but notwithstanding that just saying 'no' is good enough and those who have a penis need to accept that.

This should be a given. I think part of the problem is that increasingly women aren't allowed to say that their no is because that person has a penis/is a male/ is a TW. To do presents an ever increasing risk of the age-old violence and rage of an Entitled Man who is being denied what he wants by a woman. And these days he brings his mates round to harass and give you rape and death threats, too.

This

But, according to you, all the gay men you've ever met could be female.

I'm guessing they all are.

When you don't understand what the word gay means, you shouldn't really use it.

A man will always be a man,regardless of whether or not he has a penis.

Oh no. I’ve long ago stopped apologising for quoting the Mail on trans news. Now I fear I’m starting to love it …..

looks like men have found yet another way to pester women for sex!

I think there's room for more nuance between losing a limb because you're so sure no gay man would have a problem with sleeping with somebody who has a vulva, and calling gay men who do so, bisexual.

Lesbians and gay men holding their breath and sleeping with somebody of the opposite sex isn't new. Sometimes it's about not coming to terms with your sexuality yet, and sometimes (particularly historically) it's unsafe to be openly homosexual so you do what society expects of you to try to fit in. I don't think those people are any less homosexual than those who have been able to be clear and open and only sleep with same sex from the word go. Life is more messy and nuanced than that.

I think one of the modern challenges is that a lot of people want to #BeKind, and that includes homosexual people. I imagine a higher % of LGB people are politically Left wing, and there is a lot of pressure from, well, everywhere but the political Left for sure, to accept TWAW and TMAM. I'm fairly sure those who include trans identifying people may be doingvmental gymnastics to override their natural ick about it, and I don't think it necessarily makes them bi.

Of course I do think there will be a much higher % of lesbians who are trying to #BeKind and incur trans identifying people than of gay men, because women are raised to be kind, accommodate, put others first way more than men are.

Personally I am annoyed because I missed this event.

But also, it makes me wonder how ridiculous matters have got when this event may have issues, but a gender critical dating event would not, for example. The second would have some measure of legal protection because it would be a group with a belief.

This is part of the issue; sexuality is not a belief, attraction is not, yet being a lesbian can be redefined socially however, a gender critical lesbian could run an event, subject to the fact that presumably a group of trans activists would be outside protesting.

Also, gay men do not like fannies and to suggest that they do is homophobia.

I'm guessing, and this is just a hunch, that the erection gave it away?

Actually, may I just say that ANYONE, can refuse to have sex/be in a romantic relationship with any other person for ANY reason or NO reason at all.
Just to be clear, a lesbian doesn't have a penis, but notwithstanding that just saying 'no' is good enough and those who have a penis need to accept that.

Matthew Parris wrote an article a while back about how LGBTQ+ shouldn’t be put together because for gay individuals - women and men - it’s about sexual preferences and for the trans community it’s about gender identity. Those two are very different concepts.
That has really stuck with me.

Of course it is legal to have these events, we will just destroy you if you do.

Hope that helps.

Their point in targeting lesbian-only events is to destroy leabian-only events. They don't want to date us, they want us to disappear.

Quite, its ridiculous isn't it. Lesbians don't want to date biological men, nothing wrong with that. Therefore biological men being present at a lesbian speed dating event isn't appropriate. It should be so simple.

They patrol, monitor and try to stop all lesbian events. It is why they have had to go back underground.

Two lesbians got taken out of an event in 2019. For what you may well ask? For just existing.

Then you don't know many gay men. A friend recently had to gently let down a TM with a crush and was very kind about it, but he's homosexual, he does biological men, with dicks, a female body is never going to work for him any more than a male body is ever going to work for me. I have many dear male friends, I am never going to fancy any of them, regardless of what they identify as.

The reason that we've got increasing waves of twits going 'but I spend my life in LGTB++++ spaces and we allllllll go on identity not sex so allllllll LGBT+ people have got over their nasty homosexuality and it's only you still being mean and weird' is that you pushed out all the homosexuals years ago. These clubs are now just full of bi people with interesting label choices. And we've all sodded off to be homosexual in peace, and are sick to death of rainbows, flags, inappropriate and rapey behaviour in endless forms, utter disrespect for other people and the mad misogyny, homophobia and ageism.

The TRAs targeting this event are disgusting. It’s London and I’m pretty sure there are plenty of alternatives - but no because it’s female only they can’t cope. What do they think is going to happen if they come? Suddenly all the lesbians who are only interested in dating females are going to change their minds. Highly unlikely. If people aren’t interested in dating you get over yourself because you will spend your life being disappointed. Go find events where people are and leave others alone.