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Yet more police idiocy.

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Imnobody4 · 09/08/2023 21:00

https://twitter.com/moveincircles/status/1689341024290607106?t=PlSPnePhEVLMVBfRD89aRA&s=19

This shows the arrest of a teenage autistic girl by about 5 police officers. From what I can make out it is for a 'hate' crime. She apparently said a police officer was a Lesbian. Her Nan is a lesbian - that police officer is like my Nan.

I cannot comprehend the mindset of these officers.

https://twitter.com/moveincircles/status/1689341024290607106?s=19&t=PlSPnePhEVLMVBfRD89aRA

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ReginaRegina · 16/08/2023 23:31

All these people slagging off the police. I wonder who they'll call if some raving nutter with a knife starts trying to kick down their front door at 3am this morning? 🤔

IcakethereforeIam · 16/08/2023 16:53

@BezMills thank you for your service.

Grin
BezMills · 16/08/2023 16:48

One of my pals was a cook in the army. He retired with a decent rank (Lt Colonel). I overheard him telling these Norwegian lads he was a sniper in the SAS. Yeah nah, he served our country proudly, but he wasn't popping heads in the SAS. He cooked for them though.

People say all kinds of shit in the pub. I'll let it pass generally. Doing it on the interwebs is sad. And I should know, I was the CiC of 67 ParaMarine DeathKill Company for 54 years.

SinnerBoy · 16/08/2023 16:35

Well, Lucy - you've said what I was thinking. Also, if coppers share racist, misogynistic and homophobic banter on their work What's App, it doesn't give the public the feeling that they act without fear or favour.

Thanks for the link, @Hoardasurass

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 16/08/2023 12:17

Felix125 · 16/08/2023 09:20

MissLucyEyelesbarrow
It is not a crime to be racist, homophobic or judgmental. You can believe anything you want.
In most cases, it is legal to express those views, even if others find them
offensive.

So all of the cops who have been prosecuted or lost their jobs by sending such 'offensive' tweets in Whats App groups - should they keep their jobs?

If you can’t see the difference between an autistic 16 year old calling a lesbian a lesbian, and a bunch of police officers circulating pictures of 2 corpses or fantasising about raping a colleague, I’m not sure I can help you 🤷‍♀️

The fact that you apparently don’t understand the difference is the most convincing evidence yet that you are actually in the police. Sadly.

LarkLane · 16/08/2023 11:44

Felix has allegedly spent 23 years as a response cop? Yet never read the relevant Police ( Conduct) Regulations given such an uninformed question upthread?

Here's a clue for Felix. Try looking up.

The Standards of Professional Behaviour
In particular see Schedule 2 of the Police (Conduct) Regulations 2020

How the Standards should be applied is contained within the:
Home Office Guidance on Professional Standards, Performance and Integrity in Policing, the up to date version being 5 February 2020

Discreditable conduct and duty to report said, might be of particular interest to Felix. It applies both on or off duty.
hth

(So keen to constantly insert an alleged male perspective into a discussion between women. Yet so lacking in any in depth police knowledge)

MrTiddlesTheCat · 16/08/2023 10:54

Lots of people have jobs with very clear professional standards and would expect to lose their jobs if they expressed views that breached those standards.

GailBlancheViola · 16/08/2023 10:38

And yes they were quite rightly prosecuted.

GailBlancheViola · 16/08/2023 10:36

You forgotten @Felix125 that the Police take an oath to be neutral and to Police without fear or favour?

They absolutely should have been sacked for those WhatsApp groups and messages they proved that those officers were not neutral and that they could not Police without fear or favour.

Of course Police officers are held to higher standards than Joe Public, they have power vested in them by that self same public.

This is not difficult to comprehend.

BezMills · 16/08/2023 10:15

We rightly expect very high professional standards from our Police officers when they are on duty. They are held to those standards by their colleagues, and if necessary, the professional and statutory bodies governing the police forces of the UK.

It is also my understanding that their superiors also take an interest in what they do even when not on duty, lest they bring the force into disrepute.

That's not even unusual, every HCP in the land has the same (and they don't generally get to spray obnoxious members of the public with incapacitatant, sadly)

borntobequiet · 16/08/2023 09:40

Felix125 · 16/08/2023 09:20

MissLucyEyelesbarrow
It is not a crime to be racist, homophobic or judgmental. You can believe anything you want.
In most cases, it is legal to express those views, even if others find them
offensive.

So all of the cops who have been prosecuted or lost their jobs by sending such 'offensive' tweets in Whats App groups - should they keep their jobs?

You missed that she said “in most cases”.

It’s reasonable to expect higher standards from certain professions. I’m a teacher and would expect to be (rightly) disciplined or dismissed for such behaviour.

Ifeelsuchflutterings · 16/08/2023 09:30

Felix125 · 16/08/2023 09:20

MissLucyEyelesbarrow
It is not a crime to be racist, homophobic or judgmental. You can believe anything you want.
In most cases, it is legal to express those views, even if others find them
offensive.

So all of the cops who have been prosecuted or lost their jobs by sending such 'offensive' tweets in Whats App groups - should they keep their jobs?

There's a gap between losing your job and illegal.

I can lose my job if I bring the company into disrepute by saying something inappropriate on twitter whilst linking my profile to the company I work for.

That doesn't necessarily mean I can be arrested for it. What I said might not be illegal. But it might be sackable.

I'm not sure why you seem unclear on the law in this area? Or are appearing to defend some very indefensible comments.

Felix125 · 16/08/2023 09:20

MissLucyEyelesbarrow
It is not a crime to be racist, homophobic or judgmental. You can believe anything you want.
In most cases, it is legal to express those views, even if others find them
offensive.

So all of the cops who have been prosecuted or lost their jobs by sending such 'offensive' tweets in Whats App groups - should they keep their jobs?

ReginaRegina · 15/08/2023 22:37

Paranoid Mandroid. 🤭

ReginaRegina · 15/08/2023 22:35

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 15/08/2023 22:30

🤣 The police need a lot more karma.

No Surprises, eh. 👀

Tallisker · 15/08/2023 22:31

That likeness is uncanny!

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 15/08/2023 22:30

ReginaRegina · 15/08/2023 22:22

Wondered what Thom Yorke was up to lately.

🤣 The police need a lot more karma.

ReginaRegina · 15/08/2023 22:22

Wondered what Thom Yorke was up to lately.

Yet more police idiocy.
MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 15/08/2023 21:57

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 15/08/2023 20:50

I see that weird poster never answered the question of how she know the policewoman is part of the LGBTQ community. Did she.. shock...horror.. made an assumption based on her looks? Is the police knocking on her door?

Yes, apparently it’s fine to think a woman with short hair is a lesbian but, if you say that out-loud, it’s also ok for 7 police to arrest you 🙄

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 15/08/2023 21:54

ReginaRegina · 15/08/2023 20:13

First is racism, second is a judgement/statement of someone's sexuality.

If they said "lesbian bitch" then it would be homophobic.

It is not a crime to be racist, homophobic or judgmental. You can believe anything you want.

In most cases, it is legal to express those views, even if others find them
offensive.

The threshold at which expressing this sort of view becomes criminal is higher than the police seem to understand- which is why we keep seeing these high profile incidents of people being arrested but not charged. The CPS seem to have retained some grasp of reality and the actual law. The police? Not so much.

AngryGreasedSantaCatcus · 15/08/2023 20:50

I see that weird poster never answered the question of how she know the policewoman is part of the LGBTQ community. Did she.. shock...horror.. made an assumption based on her looks? Is the police knocking on her door?

ReginaRegina · 15/08/2023 20:13

NotBadConsidering · 10/08/2023 10:56

If someone calls someone a black bastard what crime is being committed? If someone called some a lesbian what crime is being committed?

First is racism, second is a judgement/statement of someone's sexuality.

If they said "lesbian bitch" then it would be homophobic.

DerekFaker · 15/08/2023 19:57

Yes.