Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Yet more police idiocy.

831 replies

Imnobody4 · 09/08/2023 21:00

https://twitter.com/moveincircles/status/1689341024290607106?t=PlSPnePhEVLMVBfRD89aRA&s=19

This shows the arrest of a teenage autistic girl by about 5 police officers. From what I can make out it is for a 'hate' crime. She apparently said a police officer was a Lesbian. Her Nan is a lesbian - that police officer is like my Nan.

I cannot comprehend the mindset of these officers.

https://twitter.com/moveincircles/status/1689341024290607106?s=19&t=PlSPnePhEVLMVBfRD89aRA

OP posts:
Thread gallery
71
yourhairiswinterfire · 10/08/2023 14:11

West Yorkshire Police takes its responsibilities around the welfare of young people taken into custody and around neurodiversity very seriously

Might want to let Officer 'I Don't Care' know about that then Hmm

JanieEyre · 10/08/2023 14:10

Felix125 · 10/08/2023 09:59

Why was she suddenly on the floor outside? Was she forced to the ground by officers, or did she go to the floor for other reasons (trip, fall, stumble)

What should the police do though if a person with disabilities refuses to move when they are under arrest?

They're trained to deal with that. This was a small girl, it's incredibly difficult to believe that the only way they could deal with her was by pulling on her arms when they had just been told she had scoliosis and that that would cause her extreme pain.

Saucery · 10/08/2023 14:04

Dear God, wonder what happened to the poor girl before they brought her home Sad

RubyJack · 10/08/2023 14:02

WYP statement

Yet more police idiocy.
RainyWeekend · 10/08/2023 14:01

www.westyorkshire.police.uk/news-appeals/statement-social-media-video-leeds

PAH!

Wasn't their fault ... of course.

SamW98 · 10/08/2023 13:50

Quote from the girls mum

go back and watch the original video...my daughter was brought home by police..they said they brought her home to make sure she was safe. the officers never entered my home and told me my daughter WAS NOT under arrest. so I took my daughter out of the officers arms (she was gripping her so tight her arms had gone bright red due to lack of bloodflow) and guided her upstairs. As she was walking upstairs, bearing in mind the officer is still OUTSIDE my home my daughter turned to me and said "I think she's a lesbian like nanna julie"..and with that, the officer lunged at me, assaulting me while I had my back turned, and tried to grip my daughter. my daughter was so scared she ran inside the cupboard and made herself as small as she could. she repeatedly told the officer sorry and was crying saying she didn't do anything wrong. you see with autism she has no filter and is quite literally LITERAL in everything she says and does. this is the main reason she is misunderstood. my daughter was not aggressive, and did not raise her voice. instead she punched herself in the head several times due to the officer staring at her through gritted teeth and clenched fists. that officer was intimidating my child. she also never cautioned my daughter and never placed her under arrest, so it was both unlawful and illegal what that officer did. and not only that, but I also explained my daughter has severe scoliosis and a twisted spine, but it didn't stop

BCCoach · 10/08/2023 13:41

Just to further refute the speculation that the girl could have been committing an s.5 offence:

“An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and the other person is also inside that or another dwelling.”

BorgQueen · 10/08/2023 13:34

My god how horrific.
That Police Woman is vile, an utter disgrace. Doesn’t understand autism at all, doesn’t care. I hope they sue the arse off WYP.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 10/08/2023 13:32

from WYP

We are fully reviewing the circumstances of this incident and ask that people avoid reaching any conclusions about it solely on the basis of the social media video

yeah, I definitely think I can trust what WYP tell me and shouldn’t look at other sources 🤡

BCCoach · 10/08/2023 13:32

Felix125 · 10/08/2023 11:23

Moonberri
It will probably be s5 POA

If someone finds the remark insulting, then it will fall into this category.
So in this case - she finds being called a lesbian, insulting.

It wouldn't bother me in the slightest being called similar comments. But if she is insulted by it - then it doesn't make it right.

This took place in a dwelling, which is a statutory defence against s5 POA as the police well know. There was never any intention to charge this girl, the arrest IS the punishment.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/08/2023 13:31

Red Riding

Yes we watched it on BritBox last week! My DP is from WY.

Iranoutofmonikers · 10/08/2023 13:10

If the lesbian is a female member of the public that is.

Iranoutofmonikers · 10/08/2023 13:09

Datun · 10/08/2023 13:05

"I know that the system is not always working for all of us and that's the case for all protected characteristics and we need to get better at it," she said.'

Except disability.

And sex, obvs.

And race.
And sexuality if that means lesbians (with XX chromosomes). (Remember the City of London Police and the lesbians on chairs).

Datun · 10/08/2023 13:05

"I know that the system is not always working for all of us and that's the case for all protected characteristics and we need to get better at it," she said.'

Except disability.

And sex, obvs.

Boiledbeetle · 10/08/2023 13:05

BezMills · 10/08/2023 13:02

or before. Before would also have been fine for me.

😁

Magenta82 · 10/08/2023 13:05

It's interesting that the police haven't released a statement yet. I wonder if they are scrabbling behind the scenes.

ArabeIIaScott · 10/08/2023 13:04

Iranoutofmonikers · 10/08/2023 12:52

How to improve your hate crime statistics:
Change the definition of a hate crime to include every possible perceived slight.
Spend lots of your funding on setting up new reporting phone lines especially for hate crimes.
Job done.

Don't forget to congratulate yourself on the wholly unexpected uptick in reports.

BezMills · 10/08/2023 13:02

or before. Before would also have been fine for me.

Boiledbeetle · 10/08/2023 13:01

Felix125 · 10/08/2023 11:36

JanesLittleGirl
The only thing that was needed was for the officer to act like a grown-up and completely ignore the remark.

I agree - and i have said as such.
And I am speculating - that's why I am saying, 'probably'

But you don't need to speculate. You've watched the video. Until there is further additional information we are at the say what you see stage.

And on the footage ALONE regardless of what led to it (and let's be honest it's not as if she's just been on a violent stabbing spree is it) an autistic child with a painful illness as well was overwhelmed, her safe space was violated she was ganged up on and manhandled by the police whilst the woman officer who was obviously the catalyst of this, behaved in the video like a arse.

You are your own worst enemy at times Felix.

You should have stopped at I agree.

Iranoutofmonikers · 10/08/2023 12:52

How to improve your hate crime statistics:
Change the definition of a hate crime to include every possible perceived slight.
Spend lots of your funding on setting up new reporting phone lines especially for hate crimes.
Job done.

Iranoutofmonikers · 10/08/2023 12:46

That poor child is likely to be left in terror of anyone in police uniform. It is such an abuse of power.

ArabeIIaScott · 10/08/2023 12:46

WYP are being encouraged to get in more reports of hate crime.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-63893015

'Ms Lowe told BBC Radio Leeds the force had more work to do to ensure people felt able to report hate crime.
"I know that the system is not always working for all of us and that's the case for all protected characteristics and we need to get better at it," she said.'

Alison Lowe - Deputy Mayor West Yorkshire

Hate crime: West Yorkshire Police urged to improve report handling

West Yorkshire Police says more than 11,000 hate crimes were recorded in the past year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-63893015

Ifeelsuchflutterings · 10/08/2023 12:46

NotBadConsidering · 10/08/2023 12:29

The process is the punishment.

Exactly