Yet more police idiocy.

Please don't tell me the police think its homophobic to be called a lesbian. With the actual correct word not a negative connotation slang...

The WYP statement says she was arrested on suspicion of a homophobic public order offence.

Frankly I don't care what she said.

Again, what public interest was served by arresting her?

She was drunk and mouthy in her own home. The response was totally disproportionate.

As I posted below I'm shocked that not a single one of those officers thought to step back and think WTF are we trying to achieve here? What's the public benefit/risk of arresting/not arresting her?

Six police officers came to arrest me for allegedly posting “they really do” on an instagram post which said “good things take time”.

I don’t even have an instagram account and I’m a fat middle aged woman. Six of them in my house for an allegation they have not ever even begun to substantiate. Necessity to arrest and reasonable belief, my arse. Bullying lickspittles.

I could not have less respect for an organisation.

I am working with other women in the same situation to find appropriate expert witnesses and negotiate lower costs but it is expensive to be wrongly accused of crimes in the UK and legal aid is a joke. Not as much of a joke as the police though.

Felix125 · Today 14:41
Boiledbeetle
But you don't need to speculate. You've watched the video.
But I can speculate on what she was arrested for. That hasn't been established yet - I can only assume it was a s5 POA - rightly or wrongly.

Or do you know of what the offence is she was arrested for.....?

You were in agreement, for once, with the rest of us. Why didn't you just take the win?

Why did you then have to go off into the realm of she must have done something to warrant the police reaction. Because even if You didn't think that's what you were doing that's exactly how it comes across in your posts.

I have no idea what she was eventually arrested for, but I do have personal experience of west yorkshire police intimidating a 16 year old autistic girl as I was the one having to tell them they were out of order, she was autistic and to back off. So i will admit I'm biased here with regard this police force.

My police force however are the apple of my eye currently so I'm not anti police, but what's on that video is not right regardless of the offence.

The statement from West Yorkshire police has enraged me further. It says that people shouldn't rush to conclusions based on social media reports, but we've all seen the video - it's impossible to deny what's happening there. They seem to have had absolutely no concept of the vulnerability of this girl and her need to be treated with gentleness and kindness. Or, who knows? Perhaps they did understand that. Perhaps they are bullies who take pleasure in terrifying a young girl but are too scared to confront real criminals.

No, it was indeed WYP.

Actually I think I might have got the police forces involved muddled up. You know who I mean. The ones who arrested the autistic girl.

BreadInCaptivity
Completely agree with you.

I have good friends and family who are/were in the police so it is painful for me to say this - but I am starting to hate the police. Treating victims of child grooming as prostitutes, assaulting women at the Sarah Everard vigil, failing to treat threats against 'TERFs' seriously and now this.

You know when I was growing up we used to say

"Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me"

Obviously name calling is hurtful - this saying was designed to build resilience and a shield around you. Say if often enough and you start to believe it.

The police officer who was offended by girls words could do well to get some resilience, some back bone.

The fact that the police officer reminded the girl of Nana Julie might have helped bring her home.

I really don't understand how anyone can claim the girl's words were homophobic.

I suppose the lesson here is everyone had to watch what they say around WYP. That doesn't feel very safe or policing by consent.

*de-escalate

What I can't fathom is why none of these officers took time to reflect and think - what the hell are we doing?

Is protecting the public best served by 7 of us dragging a teen autistic child from her home because one of us was told she looks like a lesbian?

Is there anything better we could be doing right now than this?

Why don't we try and re-escalate this situation rather than arrest her so we can get on with the job of doing actual policing rather than thought crime policing?

JFC, if today's police officers find baldy and looks like my Nana Julie who is a lesbian abusive, offensive or insulting then they are not fit for office. God only knows how they'd have coped with the language directed at Police in days gone by, if they cannot handle words then how do they expect these fainting flowers to handle actual, real full on violence in the course of their work?

I wouldn't want those numpties in charge of a fucking garden gnome never mind law and order on the streets.

"I think she's a lesbian like nanna julie"

Maybe we've got this all wrong and the offense was actually comparing a police officer to Nanna Julie.

People don't take Nannaphobic crime seriously enough.

They don't care whether we think that. They only care that they can get away with it by paying lip service.

So are they going to release the evidence they allege that they have that exonerates them? Or just leave us to assume that the brutal footage where a disabled child is dragged out of her house is the whole story?

Boiledbeetle
But you don't need to speculate. You've watched the video.
But I can speculate on what she was arrested for. That hasn't been established yet - I can only assume it was a s5 POA - rightly or wrongly.

Or do you know of what the offence is she was arrested for.....?

BCCoach
s5 POA can be committed if the person is in a private dwelling, but the affected person is in public - ie outside.

Florissante
is no reason to post stupid and irrelevant comments.
Well, people are saying that i have no right to post on this forum.
But I do - as it is a public forum and I have just as much right as anyone else to post.

NotBadConsidering
Exactly. You’re trying to give the officer justification by making out their perception could have seen it a certain way.
I am not justifying her actions at all - and i have said that they are wrong.
I am suggesting what she may have been arrested for and why she was arrested for that offence.

So yes being pulled for doing 69 in a 70 is wrong.

But the reason why they were pulled is for speeding. The fact that they were not speeding doesn't alter the reason why they were pulled over in the first place.

I don't believe that the financial aspects of bail have anything to do with the police.

BernardBlacksMolluscs
No money is involved with bail in the UK

Released on bail? So they’ve had money off this family because officer sulky didn’t like the way a girl spoke to her?

And in the girls own home - how were the public affected?

Usually released pending further enquiries. She’ll need to go back at a later date to be told whether or not they’re taking the matter further.

How could saying a female looked like a lesbian like her nana be taken as a “homophobic public order offence”?

I think so. Isn't that what bail is about? That someone has been charged with a crime but they have been released until they appear in court?

Does released on bail mean that they have arrested or charged her for an offence?