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Women's rights general conversations - Thread 6

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Kucinghitam · 31/07/2023 04:25

Continuation of Thread 5.

There is so much excellent information and so many active discussions on FWR that I wondered if it would be useful to have a thread to sort of "cross-fertilise" between them - airing little thoughts or vignettes that wouldn't themselves merit their own thread, to highlight other posts/threads of particular interest or to point to notable developments on fast-moving threads so that casual observers know where to look.

(For example, "the X thread has meandered onto a fascinating discussion of Y" or "Poster P's amazing analysis on thread Z might have relevance to the scenario in thread W" or "Has anybody noticed this recurring theme that keeps coming up??" or even "Random bloke asked me to smile while I was choosing onions in the supermarket, grr"- that sort of thing).

Women's rights general conversations - Thread 5 | Mumsnet

Continuation of [[https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4759300-womens-rights-general-conversations-thread-4? Thread 4]]. There is so much excel...

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Britinme · 01/10/2023 03:29

Video by Matt Walsh on X (I know, I know...) about a court decision by the 6th circuit court of appeals in the US banning "trans-affirming healthcare for minors". x.com/mattwalshshow/status/1707821437615067234?s=61&t=5wM6rrCIVAeqWs6wZl1YCQ

mach2 · 30/09/2023 23:41

Initially I used my real name, but today I changed it to something that doesn't identify me as female and all of a sudden I'm getting engagement from other users. It's nice to be noticed for once, but it's also shocking that almost no one engaged with me for ten years previously.

I shouldn't be shocked but I am.

MavisMcMinty · 30/09/2023 22:42

QEfuckinD!

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 30/09/2023 22:30

I've not had a single DM in over 10 years on Twitter. Animal profile pic.

MavisMcMinty · 30/09/2023 22:18

Women on Twitter who used a photograph of themselves got loads of unwanted DMs from men. My profile pic was of my springer spaniel, and I never had a single sleazy overture. I mean, she is far, far more beautiful than me, and nothing, nada, zilch!

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 30/09/2023 18:33

I've always gone for neutral names on forums, and (where relevant) photos of something that isn't me. Which means I don't have a direct comparator, but looking at how people interact with other accounts I think it does make a difference.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 30/09/2023 18:07

Agree, I should have changed it something else years ago and I don't know why that didn't happen. I think the forum is mainly 30+ men and everyone does just discuss the topic. I'm just surprised at how different the place feels now people don't realise I'm a woman.

MyLadyDisdainlsYetLiving · 30/09/2023 17:58

Yeah, I learned a long time ago to not out myself as a woman on discussion forums. I don’t try and pretend I’m a man, but most forum users assume everyone else in there is just like them. So if the majority are middle aged white men, you’ll easily pass for one of those too if you’re just there to discuss the actual topic.

Vegemiteandhoneyontoast · 30/09/2023 17:49

I've been on a forum related to my work for about ten years. It's quite male-dominated and blokey, one of those forums where the men call each other 'mate' all the time, but there are a few women there. Initially I used my real name, but today I changed it to something that doesn't identify me as female and all of a sudden I'm getting engagement from other users. It's nice to be noticed for once, but it's also shocking that almost no one engaged with me for ten years previously.

angelico53 · 30/09/2023 08:19

I'm a bit chary of the wider mumsnet, @Kucinghitam , so I'll try to go with what I've got for now. :)

IcakethereforeIam · 29/09/2023 22:00

I can do Terf Death, except Tuesday's. 💀

MouseMinge · 29/09/2023 21:13

I can't eat much at the moment due to health not diet so I'll happily sign up for Terf famine.

TheABC · 29/09/2023 20:09

I'm volunteering. Got the sword and the shield with the Viper insignia.

mach2 · 29/09/2023 20:02

Who's going to be Terf War?

mauvish · 29/09/2023 19:50

mach2 · 29/09/2023 15:58

"I shall be the bitch on horseback"

The Four Terfmums of the Apocalypse?

Can I be Pestilence? Pretty please? I was a goth back in the day, I'm sure I can still find a pestilential style outfit in the back of the wardrobe.

mach2 · 29/09/2023 15:58

"I shall be the bitch on horseback"

The Four Terfmums of the Apocalypse?

MavisMcMinty · 29/09/2023 13:07

I shall be the bitch on horseback.

Although I imagine horse-riding would be the very worst thing for my sciatica.

Kucinghitam · 29/09/2023 10:39

@angelico53 What an interesting (if somewhat fraught) project! I wonder if it's worth starting a new thread or PMing some of the FWR regulars who are known for having a lot of info?

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BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 29/09/2023 09:50

No specific data set, just a common problem with data collection methods when I had to look for similar info a while back.

angelico53 · 29/09/2023 08:07

@BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn which stats are you referring to?

duc748 · 28/09/2023 23:43

That's well said, @MouseMinge , Every good healing wish to you.

IcakethereforeIam · 28/09/2023 21:53

Weeeeeeeeeee!!!

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Gonners · 28/09/2023 21:36

@MouseMinge Today I am mostly a bitch on wheels.

Well, if that's all it takes then can I join the bitch-on-wheels club? Pretty please?

MouseMinge · 28/09/2023 21:23

Sometimes the cruel "f you!" part of me thinks that if transmen, transwomen and non-binary people are stupid enough not to know that they haven't changed sex and should therefore ensure that they do things like go for smear tests, etc, then that's on them and if it causes them to not find out soon enough, maybe they should have thought about that. That's the cruel part of me. The kinder part of me, not the "be kind", but kinder, is aware that the GI system has them so deep in the delusion of actual sex change that they may think that none of that refers to them anymore although I'm pretty sure that when you're a transman giving birth you must be aware that you're at least a little bit female.

Today I am mostly a bitch on wheels.

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