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Sinéad O'Connor

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MassiveWordSalad · 27/07/2023 10:40

May she rest in peace. She was an amazing woman.

I know there are other threads about her sad passing, but I was just listening to 'Black Boys on Mopeds' and this lyric jumped out at me. The song was released in 1990, but how apt it is now:

"These are dangerous days
To say what you feel is to dig your own grave"

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ChampagneIceCream · 28/07/2023 08:08

So, so sad 💚

PixiesAreReal · 27/07/2023 21:03

Genuinely gutted but I hope she's finally at peace. She was a beautiful warrior. Even her wearing a pink triangle badge was a huge deal then. She didn't care what powerful people/organisations she upset she spoke up about crimes and injustice and wouldn't be silenced or changed.
I loved her.

Dumbo12 · 27/07/2023 15:59

And as is so often (always?) the case, she was punished by the male dominated establishment, for refusing to be silenced about injustice.

IwantToRetire · 27/07/2023 15:53

I was really sad to hear the news of her death yesterday and had sort of forgotten how many songs of hers had touched me over the years. Such as OP mentioned, Black Boys of Mopeds (I think is from 1990) and still relevant.

And was so pleased to see that some papers, suprisingly the Independent, pay tribute to how because of how she stood up for herself, helped other women in the music industry, and spoke out about reproductive rights and abuse by the church.

And yes, also as said upthread, certainly challenging the gender narrative, and among other things to be glad for about her life, that she was able to do this and not get bundled into the whole rainbow nonsense. For me she was challenging the gender norms imposed on women.

RIP Sinead O’Connor Flowers

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/sinead-oconnor-death-womens-rights-quotes-b2382555.html

Sinead O’Connor’s lifelong dedication to women’s rights

Irish singer was vocal advocate for women in the music industry and reproductive rights

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/sinead-oconnor-death-womens-rights-quotes-b2382555.html

ArabeIIaScott · 27/07/2023 15:51

I'm just so saddened by this news.

She was so brave, and stood up to giant behemoths of culture, music, religion, politics. People say she was fearless, but I think she was fucking brave. And that voice.

I hope she is at peace.

BaronMunchausen · 27/07/2023 13:07

A record executive suggested she should grow her hair and wear “short skirts and high heels and makeup”. She shaved her hair the next day.

VaddaABeetch · 27/07/2023 13:00

It struck me recently that her gender non conformity would be seen these days as evidence of her being non binary when She was a woman who knew her own mind.

zanahoria · 27/07/2023 12:57

I was lucky enough to hear her sing live and she produced the most incredible, emotional performance I have ever heard. I have never been touched by a singer as much as by Sinead O'Connor. Sadly, tragedy was always part and parcel of the emotion she portrayed, it is evident in so many of her songs. She sung about pain but in a beautiful manner -a brilliant, complex but tortured artist.

May she rest in peace.

MassiveWordSalad · 27/07/2023 11:12

Early in her career the record company men put great pressure on her to appear more 'feminine' but she refused to cave in.

Apparently she shut them up by pointing out they wanted to style her like their mistresses Grin

The gender non-conformity was strong in that one. As was the womanhood.

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Beowulfa · 27/07/2023 10:56

She seemed to be fighting against the world for most of her life; I hope she is at peace now.

I've "sung" Nothing Compares 2 U" many times at karaoke. A very clunky tribute.

pinkyredrose · 27/07/2023 10:45

Such a powerful and beautiful woman. I hope she's at peace now.

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