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David Tennant

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SidewaysOtter · 11/07/2023 20:02

I’m gutted, I’m such a huge fan of his. I’ve been hugely looking forward to the second series of Good Omens.

And now this. When challenged on it, apparently he said “I’m OK, TERFs can’t climbs stairs”.

How very disappointing.

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VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 13/07/2023 16:09

SidewaysOtter · 11/07/2023 20:02

I’m gutted, I’m such a huge fan of his. I’ve been hugely looking forward to the second series of Good Omens.

And now this. When challenged on it, apparently he said “I’m OK, TERFs can’t climbs stairs”.

How very disappointing.

A small part of me has just died. I was also looking forward to Good Omens series two.

IveHadItUpToHere · 13/07/2023 14:15

He did wear the tshirt. He didn't say TERFS can't climb stairs - that was a parody account.
He has been showing support to transpeople for ages because his DC is NB. He didn't need to call everyone else freaks. I just think it was arrogant and selfish of him. He'd never have worn such a contentious top when he first became Doctor Who - but he's fine to do it now and overshadow the Good Omens photo call - pull the next series of Doctor Who into it, etc. I've always liked him but, on this, he's a dick. He's affecting his co-stars. He's showing his ignorance of the issues. And he's giving ammumition to the people who retweet convicted murderers and threaten violence against women.

NicCageisnotNickCave · 13/07/2023 12:45

Rudderneck · 13/07/2023 11:56

I believe there was a bit of news when DT partnered up with his wife, because she already had a child, who had been born when she was a teenager, if I recall correctly. I think maybe he adopted that child when they married?

That’s right.

The son (Ty) that preexisted the marriage and was later legally adopted by DT is now a young adult…

And an actor:

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm6122080/

Ty Tennant | Actor

Known for: Tolkien, Doom Patrol, House of the Dragon

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm6122080/

NicCageisnotNickCave · 13/07/2023 12:38

Iwasafool · 13/07/2023 10:24

You think this is something coming from the parents not the child and it is because they want him to get a part on Casualty? Was it one episode? I think that is a bit far fetched.

Naw, this particular kid can get an acting agent (and subsequently, a bit part on Casualty) due to nepotism alone.
Mum, paternal grandad, older half brother and dad are all successful/famous actors.

The ‘nonbinary 9 year old’ bit is merely a little cherry on top of the pre-existing PR cake.

I can’t remember who it was who asked this originally but have you ever come across a self described ‘nonbinary person’ who votes for a rightwing political party or is an active participant in a traditional, conservative religion?

(And no, a ‘nonbinary AMAB’ posing in a hijab for Instagram pics doesn’t count).

Have you ever met a parent with a primary school aged ‘nonbinary child’ who isn’t a leftie, luvvy, liberal, middle class type of person?

Ever since transsexuality became a clinical diagnosis, people diagnosed with transsexualism have existed across all political leanings and religions.

Perhaps transsexuality is a physiological condition caused by trauma (extreme disassociation from the traumatised self leading to a reinvention as an entirely new person)…

perhaps it’s a partly subconscious social-sexual strategy (a survival strategy for innately gender nonconforming homosexuals living in homophobic environments)…

perhaps it’s a paraphillia…

but it’s most likely all three (and imo those three different versions of cross sex identity should be separated out, not just lumped in together)

Whatever the medical diagnosis of transsexuality historically was, it clearly wasn’t a political identity and in some (rare) cases, it still isn’t.

But ‘nonbinary people’ are ALWAYS on the political left.

In fact, outside of certain factions of the political left, no one really believes that nonbinary people actually exist, at least, not as a meaningful, observable material category.

(We know that everyone is male or female, it’s just very occasionally a baby is born with atypical characteristics and requires a few extra tests to accurately determine which sex category they belong to)

So to be a ‘nonbinary person’ is to be a person with a self declared political identity…

… and If a 9 year old child has declared a political identity it must have been imprinted on them by the adults around them, parents, teachers, social media influencers, watching Drag Race etc.

Junior school aged children just aren’t developmentally sophisticated enough to have arrived at a political identity by themselves, they are little sponges, extremely prone to social influence but not yet capable of impulse control or critical thought. That’s why one minute they are all mad for Pokémon cards and the next they are all mad for Magic the Gathering cards.

And this is why we don’t let children vote.

Tessisme · 13/07/2023 12:26

No surprise there. He's just some bloke who acts and he doesn't, as such, have any special insight regarding the complexities of the trans debate. I'm not particularly shocked. I don't need to agree with his personal views in order to enjoy watching him spout memorised lines written by somebody else and stand where the director tells him. I'm very unimpressed that he has resorted to petty name calling.

Rudderneck · 13/07/2023 11:56

FlirtsWithRhinos · 12/07/2023 19:32

Ah thank you.

I wonder who I got him mixed up with. I definitely remember someone media about the same time who paired up with a much younger woman but did leave his wife, she was kind of backgrounded but had made the odd "it's a bit shit" type comment. The only one I can think of offhand is Dick Strawbridge but that's an unlikely mixup with DT even for me!

I believe there was a bit of news when DT partnered up with his wife, because she already had a child, who had been born when she was a teenager, if I recall correctly. I think maybe he adopted that child when they married?

OldCrone · 13/07/2023 11:13

Iwasafool · 13/07/2023 10:39

So do you seriously think DT and his wife orchestrated this so their son could get a small part for one week on Casualty?

No.

But can you answer my questions?

Iwasafool · 13/07/2023 10:39

OldCrone · 13/07/2023 10:26

Where do you think a 9 year old child gets the idea that they are 'nonbinary'? It certainly isn't something that's been thought up by the child on their own.

What is the difference between a 9 year old child who is nonbinary and any other 9 year old child? It's meaningless.

So do you seriously think DT and his wife orchestrated this so their son could get a small part for one week on Casualty?

OldCrone · 13/07/2023 10:26

Iwasafool · 13/07/2023 10:24

You think this is something coming from the parents not the child and it is because they want him to get a part on Casualty? Was it one episode? I think that is a bit far fetched.

Where do you think a 9 year old child gets the idea that they are 'nonbinary'? It certainly isn't something that's been thought up by the child on their own.

What is the difference between a 9 year old child who is nonbinary and any other 9 year old child? It's meaningless.

Iwasafool · 13/07/2023 10:24

WhichWitchWillBeWhich · 12/07/2023 17:11

Yeah except I imagine DT and his wife saying “yes dear, that’ll be a good angle and certainly get you on in the business, I’ll phone my friends at the BBC and see if they can’t find you a part on Casualty…” Attention seeking twats.

You think this is something coming from the parents not the child and it is because they want him to get a part on Casualty? Was it one episode? I think that is a bit far fetched.

Iwasafool · 13/07/2023 10:14

dunBle · 13/07/2023 02:16

@Iwasafool Oh I loved Takin' Over The Asylum too. I've had a soft spot for Ken Stott ever since. And poor Fergus... 😥

@JanesLittleGirl I wouldn't have said Tennant's Doctor was RP, more like mild Estuary English. I vaguely recall reading somewhere that the idea was he'd kind of imprinted on Rose during his regeneration, but RTD used to say all kinds of random shit in interviews.

@SpicyMoth oh no! Why did you have to go and remind me of PenisFace?

Yes Ken Stott was brilliant wasn't he.

Slothtoes · 13/07/2023 08:53

Thank you nellodee for your hopeful and thoughtful post. I am so happy to know that you are there for kids in your school who, especially for the girls, need a good relationship with a kind teacher who is female and gender nonconforming.
And of course the girls who are distressed about multiple other things and who are being told by a misogynist social media culture that the fix to magically make everything better is actually ‘their gender identity’. Leading to a whole series of misogynistic displacement activities which in reality prevent them getting the help and emotional support that they actually need and are highly likely to make things worse for them. It’s so hopeful to know that there are TERFy teachers like you supporting all our kids. Thank you.

I can imagine that for some vulnerable young Dr Who fans something like this obnoxious T-shirt slogan from David Tennant who is so closely associated with the series could be really influential to them and not in a good way for their ultimate best interests.

As I posted before, the cost of the end point of DT’s luxury beliefs, will never ever be borne by DT. These vacuous virtue signaling celebs are just giggling ‘let them eat cake’ at the rioters who can’t afford bread. It’s a shocking moral vacuum coming from anyone with an influential platform to promote the idea that there are ‘trans kids’. Nobody is born in the wrong body. I don’t understand how it’s acceptable for Tennant to promote this given his position and his likely audience.

dunBle · 13/07/2023 02:16

@Iwasafool Oh I loved Takin' Over The Asylum too. I've had a soft spot for Ken Stott ever since. And poor Fergus... 😥

@JanesLittleGirl I wouldn't have said Tennant's Doctor was RP, more like mild Estuary English. I vaguely recall reading somewhere that the idea was he'd kind of imprinted on Rose during his regeneration, but RTD used to say all kinds of random shit in interviews.

@SpicyMoth oh no! Why did you have to go and remind me of PenisFace?

BodgerLovesMashedPotato · 12/07/2023 23:45

Twitter fan account that should read

BodgerLovesMashedPotato · 12/07/2023 23:44

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A Twitter run lfan account said that.
Not him.

Boomboom22 · 12/07/2023 23:09

Sorry who is hermi9neweasley? Surely Emma Watson didn't come out as gc and a terf against surgery! Wtf David, is it true he us allowing his 10 year old to say they are nb? Let kids have any personality they want but their bodies are their bodies and not up for negotiation. Fuck stereotypes, gender is a social construct so everyone is nb but has a sexed body.

sourdoughismyreligion · 12/07/2023 23:01

I agree with the message. Leave trans kids alone, don't sterilise them, don't render them sexually dysfunctional, don't tell them their bodies are wrong and need to be fixed with surgery and medication.

Leave trans kids alone, you freaks.

TheBiologyStupid · 12/07/2023 22:24

HermioneWeasley · 11/07/2023 20:11

It never fails to boggle me that people can think drugs which sterilise children and removing of healthy body parts is a GOOD idea and the people against it are the baddies. Especially now with the mountains of evidence against the Tavistock. I mean, it’s just completely bizarre logic defying cultist behaviour.

Absolutely this!

NicCageisnotNickCave · 12/07/2023 21:38

Quiverer · 12/07/2023 15:01

In response to the message quoted.

But why?

You aren’t making any sense 😬

David Tennant didn’t actually say anything about Daleks!

Ofcourseshecan · 12/07/2023 20:27

GrammarTeacher · 11/07/2023 20:14

People who disagree with you on this issue are not handmaidens. We are not doing it for the approval of men. We just disagree with you.
I'm with DT on this one and it's no news that he supports trans people.

Could you give us some idea why, please?

Like HermioneWeasley, who posted this yesterday, It never fails to boggle me that people can think drugs which sterilise children and removing of healthy body parts is a GOOD idea and the people against it are the baddies. Especially now with the mountains of evidence against the Tavistock.

Genuine question. How can you support it?

dimorphism · 12/07/2023 20:26

The thing is, the message itself if read in isolation is really much more likely to be something some-one opposed to gender ideology would say (without the 'freaks'). I.e. don't sterilise kids.

Maybe DT is secretly GC!

However if he has a non-binary child wearing a slogan for either side of the debate is problematic for that child.

DappledThings · 12/07/2023 20:21

Kevinscousin · 12/07/2023 19:41

I might be wrong here but did DT not play down Barrowman when he was being an absolute sleaze on set and getting his cock out ? I might be wrong, but I seem to remember being put off Tenant because he thought it was all just a laugh ?

I don't know. I remember someone, can't remember who but one of the female actors saying that when DT started it changed things for the better. That he led some changing of attitudes and fostered a different culture that made it more comfortable for all the women so I think he quietly challenged Barrowman and the other guy, Noel whatsisname. I remember thinking when I read that how much I'd always liked him and that only made him all the better.

Which only makes his attitude now all the more disappointing.

lady69 · 12/07/2023 19:47

JanesLittleGirl · 12/07/2023 18:06

Terfs don't need to climb stairs. We have broomsticks.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Kevinscousin · 12/07/2023 19:41

I might be wrong here but did DT not play down Barrowman when he was being an absolute sleaze on set and getting his cock out ? I might be wrong, but I seem to remember being put off Tenant because he thought it was all just a laugh ?

Kevinscousin · 12/07/2023 19:39

@JanesLittleGirl absolutely you absolute superstar