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SidewaysOtter · 2023-07-11T19:02:10+00:00

I’m gutted, I’m such a huge fan of his. I’ve been hugely looking forward to the second series of Good Omens. And now this. When challenged on it, apparently he said “I’m OK, TERFs can’t climbs stairs”. How very disappointing.

HaveYouHeardOfARoadAtlas · 05/08/2023 20:11

aseriesofstillimages · 05/08/2023 09:37

Completely agree on the Nighy thing - he always had a touch of Nighy but in the last two episodes he seemed to be doing a full on impression and it was just weird

Totally. And I detest bill nighy. Used to like DT in Dr Who, he was great in Broadchurch but increasingly he’s a gurning caricature and he puts me off watching stuff.

beguilingeyes · 05/08/2023 18:41

The writing has been pretty bad since Capaldi. Hopefully bringing RTD will fix that. I miss Matt Smith.

Backstreets · 05/08/2023 14:16

He always reminded me of my mum when she took her bottom set out.

😂

Rudderneck · 05/08/2023 14:08

IcakethereforeIam · 05/08/2023 13:31

'Dr Woo' 😁

Thank you, I've been calling it Dr Exposition (all the explanation the Doctors had been doing to carry the plot so i stopped watching) but this is much snappier.

I'd took against Tennant because, perhaps unfairly, he seemed so up himself. Was dismayed when he came back, I'd been hoping a new Doctor might make it watchable. A friend of minecreally fancied him, which i never got. He always reminded me of my mum when she took her bottom set out.

The DW people are increasingly desperate. Bringing back an old popular actor is a sign things are probably unfixable.

What I can't figure out is how they don't see that the problem is the writing.

IcakethereforeIam · 05/08/2023 13:31

'Dr Woo' 😁

Thank you, I've been calling it Dr Exposition (all the explanation the Doctors had been doing to carry the plot so i stopped watching) but this is much snappier.

I'd took against Tennant because, perhaps unfairly, he seemed so up himself. Was dismayed when he came back, I'd been hoping a new Doctor might make it watchable. A friend of minecreally fancied him, which i never got. He always reminded me of my mum when she took her bottom set out.

storminamooncup · 05/08/2023 11:46

Its been bothering me for years who DT reminded me of and finally, yes, its Bill Nighy!

Also the nepotism annoys me with the Tennant family

literalviolence · 05/08/2023 11:05

Just another male supremacist then.

aseriesofstillimages · 05/08/2023 09:37

Completely agree on the Nighy thing - he always had a touch of Nighy but in the last two episodes he seemed to be doing a full on impression and it was just weird

RufustheSpecuIatingreindeer · 05/08/2023 09:11

Quite liked DT in Dr Woo but in GO, last episode of S2 especially, he's doing Bill Nighy from Love Actually and it's teeth gratingly awful

that’s exactly what i said to dh

i do like tennant as crowley though…it was just the last episode or so i was getting Nighy vibes (love Nighy)

beguilingeyes · 05/08/2023 08:39

Tennant has always reminded me of a hyper-active child who's desperate for attention. I haven't been able to watch Good Omens and I'm not looking forward to his return to Doctor Who.

PenguinFlipper · 05/08/2023 05:19

spoilers alert

Quite liked DT in Dr Woo but in GO, last episode of S2 especially, he's doing Bill Nighy from Love Actually and it's teeth gratingly awful. That plus terf t-shirt bollocks means I can v much leave him.

The kiss was jarring and unpleasant, presumably deliberately so.

Michael Sheen, on the other hand, is an amazing actor. That last shot of him ascending in the lift with a mix of triumph and despair flashing across his face is just extraordinary.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 05/08/2023 02:03

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 03/08/2023 22:48

The writers are playing to their audience with the rainbow preachiness.

The entire fanficdom on places like fanfiction.net, Tumblr, Archive Of Our Own, Wattpad, etc is based on the relationship between Aziraphale and Crowley looking like a gay couple, even though they are not even human, to the point that Gaiman was criticised for betraying the (presumably gay) "community" by some "fans" (I use quotes because real fans recognise that they don't own the work and don't act entitled to tell creators what to do) when he reminded us on his Tumblr that A and C aren't human so the labels "gay" and "straight". The fanfic is like the old Kirk/Spock erotic fic writers from the nineties, with an added dose of "sometimes one (usually Crowley) or both of them puts a vulva on". The (book) canon ability of angels and demons to choose their apparent sex makes the GO fanficdom a magnet for TQ types because they can indulge their wishful thinking with one hand down their pants about changing sex. Except that you can't change sex in reality, and I think that overindulging in such fictions makes reality harder to accept.

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so the labels "gay" and "straight" don't apply.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 05/08/2023 02:01

If they actually go to bed then I am definitely skipping series two, and I'm writing as someone who loved the sex in season one of the original late-90s Queer As Folk. (Yes, I am that old.)

The great thing about GO series one was that it was a little flirty (e.g. the wall slam scene where Az is looking at Crow's lips) but ambiguous enough (e.g. the night at Crow's flat being completely off-screen) that if you wanted to ship them, you could, and if you didn't, you could treat them as platonic besties. And the shipping was all the sweeter because you decided what the sex scenes looked like. GO is not QAF and there are times when subtlety is the sexier option.

aseriesofstillimages · 04/08/2023 23:38

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/08/2023 11:03

I did find it a bit sad that Good Omens 2 has completely done away with the idea of long, satisfying friendship and replaced it with a sexual relationship.

Crowley and Aziraphale were friends, and were very important to each other on that basis. It's rather a teenage view to assume that people who have been friends for years and years and years want to have sex with each other. and rather sad too. I have long friendships with other women that bring me great pleasure. sex is not a feature.

it's as if Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg suddenly fell in romantic love (hah!). Just completely unlikely. Not what people do.

One of the great things about Terry Pratchett's books is that the characters behave like real people. This would not have happened on his watch, that's all I can say.

GOOD OMENS SERIES 2 SPOILER ALERT

But they obviously don’t have sex in series 2, and there’s nothing in there which indicates they necessarily would have sex, even if they had run away together at the end (do we know if angels and demons are even capable of having sex in the Good Omens universe?). What is acknowledged is that they love each other, in a deep and profound way, and could be everything to one another. Which was already pretty obvious.

storminamooncup · 04/08/2023 17:39

Georgia Tennant gives me 'the mom in mean girl' vibes. She's just irritating.

IcakethereforeIam · 04/08/2023 17:01

Yes, 'shipping'. Fucking hate it. It's so soapy.

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SidewaysOtter · 04/08/2023 14:26

it's as if Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg suddenly fell in romantic love (hah!).

I can’t imagine Granny being bothered with romantic stuff. I know there was a dalliance with Mudstrum Ridcully when she was younger but she’d not hold with that sort of thing any more.

And Nanny was definitely straight - she’d buried several husbands (most of whom were dead at the time).

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/08/2023 12:29

also 'shippy' so true

Buffy just got so, so, so bad when that happened!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/08/2023 12:28

argh, so sorry re spoilers

FlirtsWithRhinos · 04/08/2023 12:09

GUYS, SPOILERS :( :( :(

(Also, if that is the plot it sucks for all the reasons mentioned. There used to be a term "shippy" for when a good series started to be all about characters relationships with each other instead of the plots and characters. Buffy ended up there too. Usually hits later than season two though. Apart from anything else, people fucking people they despise, especially men, is hardly unusual. The devil and the angel.finding friendship is far more meaningful than the devil and the angel having the body hots for each other. Way to ruin a great fictional friendship writers!)

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/08/2023 11:15

honestly, it's still good cake. the last episode is pretty daft. but everything up to that is good

the dialogue is miles lighter and better than the last series (the work of finnemore if I'm any judge)

and tennant and sheen are great actors and have a lovely on screen relationship

IcakethereforeIam · 04/08/2023 11:10

See, I didn't want to watch it because Tennant and, frankly, didn't i didn't really enjoy the first season. Then I did because Finnemore. Now I don't again. Really, Crowley and Aziraphale, fuck!? Was it based on a fanfic?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/08/2023 11:03

I did find it a bit sad that Good Omens 2 has completely done away with the idea of long, satisfying friendship and replaced it with a sexual relationship.

Crowley and Aziraphale were friends, and were very important to each other on that basis. It's rather a teenage view to assume that people who have been friends for years and years and years want to have sex with each other. and rather sad too. I have long friendships with other women that bring me great pleasure. sex is not a feature.

it's as if Granny Weatherwax and Nanny Ogg suddenly fell in romantic love (hah!). Just completely unlikely. Not what people do.

One of the great things about Terry Pratchett's books is that the characters behave like real people. This would not have happened on his watch, that's all I can say.

duc748 · 04/08/2023 00:28

I didn't know about that, but I Googled and I guessed right! 😀

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 04/08/2023 00:20

See, I can't watch New Tricks ever since one of the lead actors admitted to hitting his wife and pulled the "look what she made me do" card live on air.