Is anyone else finding being gender critical has affected their mental health?

It has however propelled me to think about complaining to the NHS service that I feel let me down, and which didn’t show ME much peace and love.

@YellowBrickWall I haven't forgotten what it was like. I respect and hear what you're saying. To an extent I am grateful - I just resent that I feel that way! I am glad that mumsnet didn't give in to some of the appalling bullying tactics employed by some TRAs, like so many others have. But if we can't talk about these issues on a forum for women, we are completely lost.

I would still like to understand what the mumsnet HQ post on this thread meant. I suspect they haven't returned to explain because they don't have a satisfactory answer.

I am grateful to MN for letting women speak about these issues at a time when it was the only site on the internet that would allow it. No national press would report anything that women were concerned about because they were all silenced. Some journos even eventually left their paper so that they would be able to report on what was happening.

I think people forget what it was like. This particular section - Feminism, sex and gender - was set up by MN because we weren't even able to post on regular FWR at the time about sex and gender. TRAs were targetting MN advertisers to try and get the site taken down. MN users were doxxed and Justine Roberts was swatted.

Now and again MN intervene on threads but it is nothing like it used to be. Discussion like this would never have even got off the ground if MN hadn't allowed it in the first place. They were one of the first to stand up to the bullies and so, yes, I will always be grateful for that.

Yes, I would really like to understand what you meant too @ImaniMumsnet

It sounded like completely unnecessary tone policing.

Someone earlier on the thread insinuated we should be grateful that mumsnet 'allows' us to discuss the impact of gender identity ideology on women when so many other fora don't.

I take umbrage with that. Places like Reddit that have banned any even vaguely gender critics posts are authoritarian, misogyny-infested hellholes. This is a forum for women. Of course we should be allowed to discuss any issue that affects us so profoundly.

I'm actually offended the management felt any need to say anything. Big Sister is watching?

Wow @ImaniMumsnet we’re discussing how this is afffecting our mental health and you pop up to tell us to ‘BE KIND!’ which is basically what your peace and love comment translates as.

I’d like the trans rights activists to show some peace love and kindness to women and try and understand us. I generally see a lot of compassion on here for trans people but we’re keeping our own boundaries in the face of a complete lack of respect or understanding and it’s mentally very draining.

Popping up to reiterate the be kind rhetoric is not helpful

The misogynistic monitors? Yes, they've been doing it for ages. We're not allowed to point out the fact that posts are screenshotted from here (never links to the thread) and put on Twitter. Happens all the time though, by people obviously not secure enough in their own argument to defend it.

Imagine what it must do to your mental health to look at "that" picture of Isla Bryson and convince yourself that of course that's a woman.

@BluebellBlueballs yes it was and more along the lines of when are they going to realise they're the bad guys. But of course they don't know that we are already sufficiently self aware to have asked ourselves that and come to the conclusion that we're not. So, just more of the same nonsense really.

Add me to those who’ve been deleted for a post containing only a biscuit when faced with an OP that was clearly written to goad.

Also recently for mentioning castration when not talking about cats and dogs.

I've linked up with a couple of GC guys from MN as a result of my posts. Poor bastards! Lol.

My heart goes out to all those who've suffered genuine loss. My advice, after a year of therapy and self reflection, is to compartmentalize feelings. There's so little we can do to change outcomes, but that doesn't mean we can't talk about the subject where safe and practical.

We can also get deep feelings of self worth by realising we're principled and human on this, we didn't pick any fights, we didn't choose to be science deniers.

In the darkest moments, remember we're good people, in a very uneven and unpredictable world.

For me, this is my salvation. Having come on here to realise I'm not so isolated. Seeing the level of humanity from the women and mums here. And realising I'm not the intransigent or reality denying one.

I have been deleted twice this week for saying someone displayed their own lack of thinking and that was an issue that they had to deal with. Two different people on two different threads where the poster was goading.

I suspect there is also some heavy reporting happening at the moment to go with the loud refrain of accusations reaching a crescendo again.

I've said this on here before but I am yet to meet anyone who disagree with me on this subject.

Most people I know couldn't care less if someone wants to present as a stereotypical version of the opposite sex and certainly have no hatred for anyone who does. We just all agree that humans can not change sec and in certain circumstances, we need single sex spaces to be retained.

Luckily it hasn't affected my mental health but I'm constantly baffled by the people going along with it. I think they are the opposite of progressive. Maybe they are transprogressive!

is “peace and love” a euphemism for “lighten up”?

Theres hardly a lot of petty fighting here (just some discussion with the resident sea lion), mostly just women sad and disillusioned at being treated as bigots for believing in biological reality

i don’t understand why people bother to post on threads that they are not interested in…mainly to say that they aren’t interested

i bet there are loads of threads they wouldn’t bother on

problems with MIL - can’t relate, not interested

parking problems - can’t relate, not interested

it actually suggests that they aren’t busy at all …

Not girls, “girlies”.

Not too busy to post though eh?

@Mumtothreegirlies As a mother of 3 girls, this issue is extremely relevant to you.