Colonel 'forced out of Army' after stating 'men cannot be women'

Has anyone heard if he is going to sue? I hope he does.

I hope he brings the mother of all legal claims against them and is awarded a sum so eye wateringly large that every other employer in the country freezes like a rabbit in the headlights and thinks, 'Shit, I will never make a mistake like that.'

Indeed to quote the other thread once a male is allowed to "helicoptering their wanger in the changing room" it allows any male to do the same.

It was interesting to read that there was actually someone enlisted in the force who went to the public postings on a civilian's page and decided it would be a good idea to complain that her husband did not have her under proper control and that as a result he should face a disiplinary process. Thats not bad optics at all. 🙈

The way I read it, any novel additions to uniform have to be approved by a committee, and unless and until they are, an officer like Col Wright would actually be breaking the Army' s rules himself if he permitted the wearing of pronoun badges.

It's really quite worrying because single sex spaces are integral in the military- living spaces in camps and on deployments, many buildings still have shared bathrooms and wash facilities. This is somewhere the trans shit can really have an impact on women. But the MOD is entirely wrapped up in it trying to, ironically, battle their sexist image. Women will lose here.

Eventually more practical people will realise that the money and embarrassment just is not a worthwhile price to pay for all this righteous silliness. Sadly, as India Willoughby has said from their own observations, the pattern recognition will also grow about who is likely to be litigious, impossible not to offend, drag others into the middle of some awful legal case and wreck teams, workplaces and careers, and be difficult to work with. And there will be natural consequences of that.

Glad to hear this news.

Is anyone surprised to hear that a self interested man who claims to be a woman was involved in his initial ordeal?

Of course I didn't suspect that for one second. Perish the thought!

The complainant also claimed Col Wright, who quit the Army, was prejudiced for banning pronouns badges from uniforms.
Another grievance related to his wife saying of Strictly Come Dancing that she liked to see men and women dance together.

How how was this complaint able to go anywhere?! Literally complaining about i. him doing his job (see below) & ii. another person saying something they’re hoping will be construed as homophobic 🤦‍♀️

British “Army Dress Regulations (All Ranks)”:
General Instructions On Wearing Of Uniform
02.11. Control of Uniform.
Commanding officers are forbidden to introduce or sanction any deviation from authorised patterns of uniform clothing, accoutrements, equipment or badges. Any proposed changes are to be submitted to the Army Dress Committee as detailed in Part 1 of these Kegulations. This instruction applies equally to Full Dress uniform as laid down, irrespective of whether it is worn in public or provided at public or private expense.

So, unless I’ve completely misunderstood - & please correct me if I’ve missed something more knowledgeable people! - the army’s own rules ⤴️ mean pronoun badges aren’t allowed on uniforms. And this all happened after the Forstater case was settled, so it was established what he said was not transphobic. And clearly he is not responsible for what his wife posts/comments on Facebook. So the army pursued a non-case; lost a specialist they probably won’t be able to replace; & have made themselves a laughing stock in the press.

Well I’m certainly not, and would imagine that the relevant trans widow would be able to shed light as to whether that act of professional vindictiveness was in keeping with their character.

Is anyone surprised to hear that a self interested man who claims to be a woman was involved in his initial ordeal?

Thank fuck for that.

Thank you. The rare man who was punished for saying what we women say. I'm very grateful for his speech and happy he was exonerated but to have even been sent through this is egregious

😃

Here's a good news update on this case

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12552835/Cleared-hero-Army-doctor-disciplined-men-women.html

I don't recall knowing that a tw was involved in the initial investigation.

One of the many many contradictions.

Why do adults need self ID so they don't have to change their bodies at all in any way but children must have access to PBs.

Why is it not a mental health condition when everyone's allegedly suicidal.

Trans people will kill themselves yet the suicides we hear about are from those who are being " treated". Why weren't we tripping over all these bodies in thr 80s and 90s.

Trans people are the most vulnerable so the transwomen must use women's spaces but they support the right for the dangerous men they are escaping from to self ID in right behind them.

Trans kids know who they are early on but there's no way a teenage girl can write a coherent letter without help from adults.

Sex isn't binary. Except it is when you need to define yourself against it.

You can live as man whilst performing the most female function ever and having a baby.

No one knows what a women is until of course a woman is needed to be a surrogate.

Acceptance without exception for us women. Then someone like yaniv comes along with their period obsession and racist targeting of beauty therapists who trans people then dub not " true trans" .

Its not stereotypes but every story starts with " at 2 he liked to wear dresses and play with dolls "

this is the thing about our current situation (not just in the military) that really sticks in my craw.
2nd wavers tried to dismantle gender stereotypes, with no little success in so many respects.
And now? if you wear a dress? you're a woman
wear lipstick? woman
high heels? woman

I'm glad i left the military when i did.

Well, Sir Sam Vimes, you would recommend it!

We just started to get somewhere and along came the trans Militants, demanding we be put back in our box.

I've read it and enjoyed it but the outcome was obvious by the start of the third chapter.

I highly recommend everyone reads this!

@HelenaTranscart - have you read Terry Pratchett's 'Monstrous Regiment'? 😉

Brefugee:

When i served you were dismissed pre-12th week of pregnancy if you found yourself in that position. Just out on your ear.
Dismissed for having the tiniest, completely covered tattoo as a woman (not as a man)
Dismissed for being a lesbian. So many of my friends persevered, and it did depend where you were and so on, but a fair few were out on their ear for that.
alongside all the everyday and every day misogyny and sexism etc etc

What strikes me about this is that it wasn't really all that long ago that we served under these conditions. Then changes were rightly made away from such out-and-out sexist bollocks. And now we appear to be heading back to the rigid sex stereotypes we worked so hard to dismantle. How little time we had as almost-equal human beings. It's rage-inducing but desperately sad all at the same time.

Isn't it strange how, according to TRAs:

a) There is no clash between trans rights and women's rights, and any women who suggest otherwise are hysterical bigots;

and, yet, also

b) Any assertion of women's rights is a threat to trans rights?

Almost as if someone isn't being entirely truthful 🤔

Please explain for this hard of thinking ex-squaddie.
What is transphobic? how is it propaganda.

The fragility of screeching "genocide" at people who write words that say "women cannot become men, men cannot become women" is the laughable thing here.
And as long as people like you make hyperbolic comments nothing is going to change.

the fragility here is not being displayed by the surgeon who said that biological men cannot become biological women.

Your comment is batshit.