Police withdraw stalking protection order application against Caroline Farrow

The previous CC was very much aware of what happened to Caroline.
As is the PCC
As is the new CC.
And it's very odd and uninformed to state that they won't know about it.

IcakethereforeIam
And the above post was in answer to BezMills - who didn't believe it had happened.

IcakethereforeIam
My 'feeling' or 'feelings' weren't hurt - I get called much worse at work from people I arrest.

My point is - its wrong to do it.

This is off the back of a post stating that I had no humanity. I was pointing out that others on here seem to have none either.

DogsAkimbo · Today 11:19
Why is there a choice of when to turn cameras on?
There are certain incidents we go to where BWV can not be used. Any cases where you believe you will have to video interview a witness at a later date. Mental Health assessments, medical assessments, obtaining written statements, PPN's etc etc

However - there is also a cost implication. In essence it costs a fortune for data storage for BWV footage, especially if it is all marked as 'evidential' You will have hundreds of cops with footage every day with footage which will need storing for ever if its marked as 'evidential' (which it should be) just in case its required.

I personally keep mine on and encourage my colleagues to do the same during the shift. It only gets turned off in circumstances where we can't record (as above). The storage costs are astronomical and this will ultimately get passed on in local council tax hikes.

If you are wanting cops to have their BWV's on all the time to show what they are doing - it will have a cost implication to the local community.

LarkLane
This case won't touch the Chief Constable - it will be dealt with by the shift responsible. The shift will deal with cases such as this one all the time, together with a whole heap of other incidents. Don't build your hopes up that the CC will make a comment on the outcome of it, as they will probably be unaware of it.

@baldieheid was quoting, George Bernard Shaw (or at least attributed him). It's a metaphor.

@CliantheLang is explicitly not calling you a pig.

I was expecting much worse

None the less, your feeling were hurt.

I believe that tomatoes are fenced off to help a specific cause and that an email went out to CitizenGo subscribers or at least the wording changed. Caroline was sympathetic to that!

@Felix125 I'm not sure anyone asked for your invaluable expertise on this thread, but are you aware Mumsnet has an 'Ask Me Anything' forum? I'm sure the people of Mumsnet would find an "I'm a police officer, ask me anything" thread interesting. You may even get some useful pointers from other Mumsnetters who work for the police too. Helpful all round.

I know Caroline was hoping for gardening contributions in the hope of receiving some redress against Surrey Police. Is this still going?

I also remember there were some hopes that any vegetables donated would be ringfenced for this action - can you confirm this is the case @DrLouiseJMoody ?

You read between my lines.

Surrey's Chief Con when this saga started was Gavin Stephens the Weak. Too scared to be interviewed about this on TV back in October I recall.

It sums up how much these people all piss in each others pots, as I see he's now moved onto Chair of the National Police Chief Council. Presumably, cos yanno he's great at listening to Communities, or so he claims.

I wonder what the new lad is making of all this complete bollocks that's left festering on his desk? At some point when this has ended, and Caroline is vindicated, he's going to be asked to do some strong press interviews.

I do hope that he's practising his best "lessons will be learned" speech for when the shit hits the fan

Since when did this thread become the Felix show?

Caro, solidarity sister!

We really do need to ignore it. I’m not sure that it isnt AI. ENDLESSLY REPEATING ONESELF Suggests either AI or someone deliberately being provocative and undermining a thread in order to stop women talking, but when the poster is being directly addressed, and therefore justified in answering,it masks that. I keep coming back in the hope of an informative update.I kind of hope it’s AI because if not, even if you genuinely feel you are providing a service, having 99% of people thinking you’re a complete tosser is quite damaging to the psyche. Please note, I’m not accusing anyone, or calling anyone that, just observing that’s what people think

you have zero ability for introspection or thought sometimes. Really. If people didn't commit crime we wouldn't need the police.

That makes sense. I’d imagine it could eventually be uploaded to the cloud, but yes to times when it shouldn’t record.

Though I imagine the Police Unions wouldn't want their members routinely recorded.

True… it might be embarrassing when they’re shagging on shift, or pestering vulnerable women, for instance.

Sorry, pp for @DogsAkimbo

It'll be because limited memory, possibly battery life. Though I'm unconvinced by the former. There might also be data protection issues, for the officer and the public. If they could record all the time, there perhaps should be a stop switch for toilet breaks and the like. Though I imagine the Police Unions wouldn't want their members routinely recorded.

Well he’s identifying himself as a police officer and then referring to the malicious communications act, so I think the intent there is try to subdue us.

Perhaps you could report the abusive posts to the police?

Why is there a choice of when to turn cameras on?

This post is not aimed specifically at Felix, more a general observation on the earlier discussion about body worn cameras…

The police services (plural) like to make much of the security of their data retention on the various body-worn and CCTV camera systems they deploy. We are assured, repeatedly, that individual officers have no access to the footage whilst recording, (although they can choose not to hit record), or once docked and uploaded at the station.

And yet, in so many instances that it’s hard to credit, gaps suddenly appear in the footage or it gets “lost” in some mysterious, never adequately explained, manner.

And, in a statistically-unlikely-to-be-random fashion, it seems to get “lost” most often where the Police are being questioned about their behaviour.

Women get calling bad words regularly, many from the time they hit puberty.

One man got called a pig once, and cannot stop bleating on about it.

I simply don't believe you felix

Yes me too, it’s rare and MN are good at deleting. Shouldn’t have to derail a whole thread about something else that’s important…