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Police withdraw stalking protection order application against Caroline Farrow

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BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 23/06/2023 08:45

Or rather their barrister does. The case somehow got as far as court without the police giving Caroline's representations to the barrister. Once he read them he declined to proceeed.

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1671854328485691392?

https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow/status/1672117973862039552?

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AlisonDonut · 22/05/2024 10:41

I wonder if he was told to stand the fuck down.

Boiledbeetle · 22/05/2024 10:22

Well done Caroline , let's hope this finally stops the shit happening on repeat!

And...

Where's Felix? I want to say if he's lurking!

WE DO BLOODY KNOW!

We always did. This whole thing from start to finish was a fucking witch hunt!

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 22/05/2024 09:42

Agree with you both. How many (mainly) women will have curtailed their legal participation in this discussion after seeing what the police are capable of.

This is (again) not one rogue officer but is force wide; every action will have had oversight and been signed off. I have lost so much respect and trust in those that are meant to serve us all without fear or favour.

Helleofabore · 22/05/2024 09:38

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 22/05/2024 09:22

! UPDATE !

Brilliant result against Surry Police. I hope Caroline takes it allll the way 🥂

https://nitter.poast.org/CF_Farrow/status/1793178685190570335#m

Caroline Farrow@CF_Farrow 1h
UPDATE & STATEMENT 22nd May 2024

Surrey Police abandoned their application for this draconian order two weeks later, claiming they were only provided with ‘substantial evidence discrediting the allegations on the day of the hearing’.

This was not, in fact, true. Surrey Police had already received substantial defence submissions refuting the incredible allegations levelled against me some weeks earlier, in May 2022, following my second arrest. They were also made aware of this evidence during two police interviews. Still, Surrey Police chose to pursue the application, which was signed by the Chief Superintendent at the beginning of June.

These submissions were additionally emailed to Surrey Police solicitors in advance of the hearing, but they were only finally read by the police counsel on the day of the hearing, who immediately asked the court for an adjournment so that he could take further instructions from his client. The investigating officer responsible for bringing this application was on holiday and had sent a stand-in to court.

Two weeks later, much to my relief, Surrey Police advised me that they would drop the application.

The terms of the order would have significantly impacted my life. It would have ended my ability to earn a living and put my family, including two vulnerable children with autism, under constant police surveillance and at the mercy of vexatious complaints; therefore, I had no choice but to put up a robust defence.

The bar for costs to be awarded against the police when they bring unsuccessful applications for Stalking Protection Orders (SPO’s) is very high. Public authorities must be encouraged to make and stand by reasonable and apparently sound administrative decisions made in the public interest without fear of exposure to undue financial prejudice if their decision is successfully challenged.

Successful litigants are highly unlikely to recover costs unless they can demonstrate unreasonableness and improper conduct on the part of the police authority.

In this context, I am delighted to announce that Surrey Police have offered to pay most of my defence costs, which run into many thousands of pounds, rather than contest them at a court hearing and risk significant criticism.

However, this is not the end of the matter. Surrey Police had a duty to reimburse the costs that I was forced to incur unnecessarily, defending an application that should never have been brought. A considerable amount of resources could have been saved if the matter had been investigated fairly and impartially in the first place. For reasons best known to themselves, the investigating officers were unwilling or unable to apply professional scepticism to the ludicrous allegations. They chose to traumatise my entire family by arresting me at tea time because, to quote their words, they had ‘reasonable suspicion that Mrs Farrow may have deleted tweets’.

In October 2023, Surrey police informed me that despite their best efforts at case-building, including the seizure and examination of all of my devices, they had not met the evidential test required by the Crown Prosecution Service.

Initially seized in October 2022, my devices were not returned until March 2024.

Over the past five years, my entire family has been put through a terrible ordeal thanks to Surrey Police, who turned a blind eye to appalling threats and harassment directed at my whole family and advised me to stop posting about gender ideology, yet were happy to arrest me to prove or disprove, a patently false allegation. I will continue to hold this force and the officer involved to account by pursuing them for damages for the harm inflicted on myself and my family.

I’m acutely aware that I have been able to mount a defence only thanks to the fact that I enjoy a minor public platform and can harness the generosity of so many ordinary members of the public who were incensed and outraged by my arrest. I have been inundated by stories of similar injustices and police overreach, where people have had to accept appalling restrictions on their freedoms and multiple arrests as a result of hearsay accusations simply because they were not able to access the legal support to which everyone should be entitled

Thank you for the update. These cases have a chilling effect.

PriOn1 · 22/05/2024 09:30

It is a good result, but another horrifying reminder of how corrupt the police are and of how willing they were to be used as obvious flying monkeys by a narcissist.

I have no faith that this will have the wider effect that it ought to bring. What happened to Caroline is beyond belief.

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 22/05/2024 09:22

! UPDATE !

Brilliant result against Surry Police. I hope Caroline takes it allll the way 🥂

https://nitter.poast.org/CF_Farrow/status/1793178685190570335#m

Caroline Farrow@CF_Farrow 1h
UPDATE & STATEMENT 22nd May 2024

Surrey Police abandoned their application for this draconian order two weeks later, claiming they were only provided with ‘substantial evidence discrediting the allegations on the day of the hearing’.

This was not, in fact, true. Surrey Police had already received substantial defence submissions refuting the incredible allegations levelled against me some weeks earlier, in May 2022, following my second arrest. They were also made aware of this evidence during two police interviews. Still, Surrey Police chose to pursue the application, which was signed by the Chief Superintendent at the beginning of June.

These submissions were additionally emailed to Surrey Police solicitors in advance of the hearing, but they were only finally read by the police counsel on the day of the hearing, who immediately asked the court for an adjournment so that he could take further instructions from his client. The investigating officer responsible for bringing this application was on holiday and had sent a stand-in to court.

Two weeks later, much to my relief, Surrey Police advised me that they would drop the application.

The terms of the order would have significantly impacted my life. It would have ended my ability to earn a living and put my family, including two vulnerable children with autism, under constant police surveillance and at the mercy of vexatious complaints; therefore, I had no choice but to put up a robust defence.

The bar for costs to be awarded against the police when they bring unsuccessful applications for Stalking Protection Orders (SPO’s) is very high. Public authorities must be encouraged to make and stand by reasonable and apparently sound administrative decisions made in the public interest without fear of exposure to undue financial prejudice if their decision is successfully challenged.

Successful litigants are highly unlikely to recover costs unless they can demonstrate unreasonableness and improper conduct on the part of the police authority.

In this context, I am delighted to announce that Surrey Police have offered to pay most of my defence costs, which run into many thousands of pounds, rather than contest them at a court hearing and risk significant criticism.

However, this is not the end of the matter. Surrey Police had a duty to reimburse the costs that I was forced to incur unnecessarily, defending an application that should never have been brought. A considerable amount of resources could have been saved if the matter had been investigated fairly and impartially in the first place. For reasons best known to themselves, the investigating officers were unwilling or unable to apply professional scepticism to the ludicrous allegations. They chose to traumatise my entire family by arresting me at tea time because, to quote their words, they had ‘reasonable suspicion that Mrs Farrow may have deleted tweets’.

In October 2023, Surrey police informed me that despite their best efforts at case-building, including the seizure and examination of all of my devices, they had not met the evidential test required by the Crown Prosecution Service.

Initially seized in October 2022, my devices were not returned until March 2024.

Over the past five years, my entire family has been put through a terrible ordeal thanks to Surrey Police, who turned a blind eye to appalling threats and harassment directed at my whole family and advised me to stop posting about gender ideology, yet were happy to arrest me to prove or disprove, a patently false allegation. I will continue to hold this force and the officer involved to account by pursuing them for damages for the harm inflicted on myself and my family.

I’m acutely aware that I have been able to mount a defence only thanks to the fact that I enjoy a minor public platform and can harness the generosity of so many ordinary members of the public who were incensed and outraged by my arrest. I have been inundated by stories of similar injustices and police overreach, where people have had to accept appalling restrictions on their freedoms and multiple arrests as a result of hearsay accusations simply because they were not able to access the legal support to which everyone should be entitled

lechiffre55 · 09/09/2023 23:06

LarkLane · 09/09/2023 19:43

Thanks for the update.
I wonder if X will be having their devices seized, and X arrested and investigated?
It would be the right thing to do surely?

No need to speculate, there's a really simple rule to wrok this out.
If X is female she's fucked and the police will throw the book at her.
If X is male, and especially if X is male and identifies as a woman, Surrey police will bend over backwards and take it up the arse to make sure X has the most fragrant and head tilty of days.

SideWonder · 09/09/2023 20:42

LarkLane · 09/09/2023 19:43

Thanks for the update.
I wonder if X will be having their devices seized, and X arrested and investigated?
It would be the right thing to do surely?

You might think that, but we couldn't possibly say.

(Wasn't this what the Government Whip said just before he pushed the journalist off the roof of the House of Commons?)

NB Fiction: House of Cards.

MassiveWordSalad · 09/09/2023 20:32

LarkLane · 09/09/2023 19:43

Thanks for the update.
I wonder if X will be having their devices seized, and X arrested and investigated?
It would be the right thing to do surely?

Well, you'd think so, wouldn't you?

But the police only seem to go after easy targets.

LarkLane · 09/09/2023 19:43

Thanks for the update.
I wonder if X will be having their devices seized, and X arrested and investigated?
It would be the right thing to do surely?

SabrinaThwaite · 09/09/2023 18:28

Good to see that @DrLouiseJMoody has posted an X/Twitter update on Surrey police (on 1st September - I’m a bit behind).

Seems like the person associated with a Twitter account that harassed CF with thousands of Tweets has been unmasked.

Let’s hope that Surrey police are on the case and banging on the culprit’s door, seizing electronic devices and following up with stalking orders.

DiabolicalFinial · 08/08/2023 00:39

Thanks, @LarkLane. I appreciate the insight.

SinnerBoy · 07/08/2023 22:18

colouringindoors · Today 21:56

God this. He does not appear to have any empathy whatsover. Just give it a break. I want to hear updates about Caroline.

Yes, you see "53 new messages" and by now know that 32 are from PC blinking Plum. It's really distracting and apart from owt else, my scrolling finger is gettin RSI.

JanesLittleGirl · 07/08/2023 22:15

Leave it out
Give it a break
I've had enough
I've had all I can take.

If you think this is directed at you then it probably is.

colouringindoors · 07/08/2023 21:56

MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/08/2023 11:31

Tone deaf, narcissistic males come in all shapes, sizes and uniforms.
Just saying.

God this. He does not appear to have any empathy whatsover. Just give it a break. I want to hear updates about Caroline.

LarkLane · 07/08/2023 16:39

*apols for the typos, cooking and typing don't go together!

SinnerBoy · 07/08/2023 16:20

And anyway, I'm a Dr, so authority, innit.

Oh great! I've got this funny rash....

😃

LarkLane · 07/08/2023 16:19

DiabolicalFinial · 07/08/2023 15:08

@LarkLane - so the open cases just stagnate?

Surrey are awaiting a decision from the CPS towards the end of August on another potential charge(s). The officer had already done that paperwork prior to "leave" I presume.

It's likely, but not definite, that the rest of the officer's caseload is indeed stagnating. I don't know what Surrey's policy is in this circumstance. But if the new Chief, were on a damage limitation exercise, he would want Professional Standards to go through the rest of the caseload too surely? And have it dealt with it accordingly. Just in case there was something else he didn't know about, waiting to blow up.

I'm not privy to Caroline's paperwork at all, nor do I speak to her. I just have a strong belief that this will sort in her favour.

IcakethereforeIam · 07/08/2023 15:27

I'm surprised an 'out of office' doesn't has a signpost to someone who can deal in the interim, especially as it's such a lengthy period.

DiabolicalFinial · 07/08/2023 15:08

@LarkLane - so the open cases just stagnate?

LarkLane · 07/08/2023 14:53

"On leave" may also be a euphemism for an officer being suspended. It's not going to be on an email reply to someone outside the Service that "this officer has been suspended" is it?
Omitted from the mansplain above.

Suspension can happen where there is an investigation of a public complaint or conduct matter, or where there is an allegation of misconduct or gross misconduct under the Police (Conduct) Regulations 2020 and it's thought to be in the public interest to suspend.

Not every complaint brings a suspension, there's criteria to be met.

The officer may take annual leave during this time, if the request is cleared with Professional Standards.

The suspension should be regularly reviewed, usually, every four weeks.

The officer should be kept informed, as should the officer's representative.

Suspension is to aid the investigation, it's not a punishment nor a suggestion of guilt. However, the findings of the investigation may lead to further action.

During the period of suspension, the officer is usually required to stay away from police premises, to not discuss the case with other officers apart from the nominated representative, and the officer has no police powers during this time.

To be very clear, I'm talking in general terms here, I'm not saying this particular officer has been suspended.

However, it's a possibility not to be ignored.

DiabolicalFinial · 07/08/2023 14:36

@anyolddinosaur - I agree… No attention, no engagement, no validation.
I will continue to skim to actual updates/relevant discussion.

Felix125 · 07/08/2023 13:35

LarkLane
On leave or on holiday or on a course, or its maybe compassionate leave.

The OIC doesn't have to explain what they are doing on such an email 'bounce back' - they are on leave, which means they are away from their normal duties on the shift.

Felix125 · 07/08/2023 13:32

anyolddinosaur
I agree - perhaps the 'BWV time travel' can be put to rest now.

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