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Guardian: drag protests are a hard-right American import

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PotteringPondering · 22/06/2023 18:10

Guardian determined to portray all drag protests and objections as hard-right and imported from the States.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/22/british-extremists-us-right-family-drag-shows-children

No reference at all to the feminist/progressive case that drag is misogynistic, or to the rising tide of UK concerns about drag.

Almost as if they were trying to smear the anti-drag case. Surely not?

British extremists are importing tactics from the US hard right. Their target? Family drag shows | Tim Squirrell

The debate over what is appropriate for children is important, but it has been co-opted at protests using abusive tactics, says Tim Squirrell of the Institute for Strategic Dialogue

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/22/british-extremists-us-right-family-drag-shows-children

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IwantToRetire · 22/06/2023 18:48

There is one slight reference to women's views:

Framing drag as misogyny

A narrative that is present primarily in the UK and
Australia, with minimal notable representation in the
US, portrays drag artists as misogynists due to the
exaggerated caricatures of femininity they often portray.

It is worth noting that drag’s relationship to gender and
feminism is contested, and the question of whether drag
may have misogynistic elements is a live debate.35
The gender critical group Women’s Rights Network
attended an anti-drag protest in Glastonbury. This
group promotes transphobic tropes and views DQSH as
misogynistic and homophobic.36

In Australia, anti-drag Senator Ralph Babet, who
was elected off the back of anti-lockdown and anti-
vaccine movements, argued “It’s time for us to actively
campaign against men playing ‘woman face’.”

(Have looked at the footnotes ie the "source" of the "evidence" the report is based on, ie Pink News and so on. Funny that this is accepted as research, given that only recently a report based on anecdotal evidence has been with drawn. Would be interesting if mumsnet was one of the links used a a valid source of information. Oh no, that wouldn't be research, that's just women talking.)

IwantToRetire · 22/06/2023 18:39

There is in fact a tie to "research" that the writer's organisation has published, strange they didn't provide a link https://www.isdglobal.org/isd-publications/a-year-of-hate-understanding-threats-and-harassment-targeting-drag-shows-and-the-lgbtq-community/

But like so much research the basis on which it is carried out is totally skewed by the research proposers.

For instance a man never notices or if he does never thinks that what women are doing or saying is worth paying attention to

But of course listen to what other men say or do

Added to which is the media bias that means a protest will get more coverage when violence is used (ie many protestors now know that to get media attention you have to do something extreme)

So yet again what women say or think is erased.

Heliotroper · 22/06/2023 18:18

He keeps talking about research but bit provides no evidence that he has talked to any protesters.

EllaRaines · 22/06/2023 18:15

The Guardian as always is pathetic.