Guardian: drag protests are a hard-right American import

Quite the ratio!

True. They apparently didn't notice that DQST is itself an American import, either.

Women are not free to say they find drag offensive and that they dislike men mocking stereotypes of women, that are sexualised and reduce women to objects without intelligence.

Women are not free to object to the names associated with some drag artists that are misogynist.

Women are not free to state their opinion that exposing children to sexualised images is harmful to them, that sexual innuendo should remain in adult spaces and positive role models for children should not be based in fetishism.

If women state their opinion, it is ludicrous to make the connection between their stated opinion and book banning, anti abortion, homophobia, anti vaccine, covid denial, anti trans and the right wing politics.

I have always disliked males parodying females in outdated sexist modes whether Justin Fletcher as Dina Lady, Dustin Hoffman as Tootsie, Robin Williams as Mrs Doubtfire. It doesn't make me right wing and this stereotype is very far from progressive.

I do believe that the push to expose children to sexualised images and discussions is harmful and sexual abuse is three times ore prevalent for females compared to males, yet males are at the forefront of defending this trend.

Women are the ones at risk, the ones being mocked, the ones who are affected by these harmful beliefs and images but womens' voices are not being reported.

Exactly!! But no, it's always children!

"How many different kinds of lavatory can you have? And it's pretty evil when it's preached to children by crazy teachers"

A Barry Humphreys quote.

simples. Protestors need to have big banners that read: Anti-Drag Liberal Lefty - Drag is blackface on women

Also Barry Humphreys was relabelled as "problematic" prior to his death due to....... "Transphobic comments". So not the best example.

It was quite a day for the Guardian yesterday, there was an article and an opinion piece both on this.

I can’t believe they even brought up Dame Edna which was satirical comedy for adults.

Drag has nothing in commone with cross dressing and "female impersonators" eg hinge and bracket, or pantomime.

Drag is very much part of queer culture and is overtly sexualised.

I never know when men write stuff like this whether they really are stupid, or the male gaze means they just dont recognise what presumably they feel is acceptable is highly offensive to others.

Long before trans inclusion meant that Pride ceased to be about a celebration of same sex attraction, queer culture turned Pride into a fetish parade, similar to having a march to celebrate heterosexuality being represented by the dogging community.

And because of these queer male exhibitionism many lesbians drifted away from Pride. And then not much later the trans takeover happened so maybe a lucky escape.

Drag and cross-dressing have been a part of British cultural expression for centuries. From Shakespeare plays to pantomime dames, and the late Barry Humphries’ creation Dame Edna Everage; playing with representations of gender in all its forms has long been widely enjoyed by audiences. Drag shows are a modern expression of this tradition

But American drag shows just seem like a bunch of talentless oiks lip synching and showing off

Oh and BTW, Barry Humphreys was not British

It will never cease to amaze me that so much effort is put into defending adult entertainers' spurious "right" to perform in front of children in the name of "diversity" and "inclusion"...

…and, for that matter, why do drag queens always have to read to children?

Why can’t they … pick up litter? Be an old person’s companion? Start a community garden? Help at a homeless shelter…?

Etc, etc…..

And why do you never see women dressed up as grotesque parodies of men - all hairy, with beer bellies, builders’ cracks and 5 o’clock shadows - reading to children??

And for anyone on facebook and wants to comment posted there at https://www.facebook.com/GuardianOpinion/posts/pfbid0RVn5RbFRneEfkt7Ymj17K2RH6tQrSNEXZk3SJrmQNzTHnL28bD9DwYEohLvRUVd6l

It’s always very inconvenient when left-leaning, progressive, liberal (often educated, critical thinking) people start opposing something.

It means that, just maybe, there might be something in it.

When those people happen to be women (inevitably, because it invariably impacts on them), it’s super-easy to patronisingly discredit them.

Throw ‘(ultra) right wing’, ‘conservative’, perhaps even ‘Christian’, certainly ‘Nazi’ is a quick, easy one - at them, and a). they’ll shut up, and b). all the other ‘progressives’ will distance themselves from the position at the speed of lightening.

It’s a tried and true tactic, straight from the Women - Shut The Fuck Up playbook.

There seems to be a collective pretence among left-identified netizens that drag queens in stripper outfits reading to children is a much-loved ancient longstanding tradition and people not liking it just came suddenly out of nowhere as a sign of an incipient fascist insurgency.

Of course opposition to drag shows for children is an American import. What an absolutely daft thing to write; how is he not embarrassed?

Yes, Tim, nobody thought of opposing Drag Queen Story Whatever before the Yanks invented Drag Queen Story Whatever. Very perceptive of you.

It's very odd, because in my experience plenty of gay people don't, and never have, really liked drag, and certainly never thought it was something for kids.

That whole element is basically totally new, it's not like there is some established tradition of drag for children.

What also always strikes me is that this is the kind of thing, saying only the "hard right" has an issue with this, that makes normal, centrist conservative Americans sure that progressives are completely bonkers and possibly evil. They, reasonably enough, take it more or less at face value when they hear the Guardian say, only far right people would believe this and conclude that being anywhere near the left means losing your mind.

Can someone who is on twitter get on to his twitter account and put him straight.

Haha!

Women have disliked drag for a long time, and they dislike DQST even more so.

Ironic that that the biggest American import was drag queen story hour itself which was started in 2015 in San Francisco by author Michelle Tea, to give young children queer role models.
It has received a backlash here but it is not in the same political landscape as the US where far right groups are more prevalent. In the UK it is easy to scapegoat opponents as 'bigots and fascists' because it is an easy argument and they are lazy journalists who are not interested in the truth anymore or balance, they are just mouthpieces for American Left wing political beliefs.