Musk tweets Suzanne Moore's comment piece: "The cult of gender ideology is finally disintegrating"

Many ' progressive ' people believed in eugenics in the early 20th C. Went out of fashion thanks to the Nazis but obviously never really went away.

Consider Marie Stopes , the pioneer of birth control. She cut off her son when he married a girl who wore glasses. I'm not sure about her other politics but lots of liberal / left people had these strange views.

But why is Polly Carmichael still there? I asked this on another thread. She was a huge driver of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones at GIDS and worked with Susie Green. It really worries me...why isn't she gone?

Me too.

It’s very much NOT fine to pay for your son to have his penis and testicles removed. It’s beyond belief that it would even enter any parent’s head. It is morally, medically repugnant, and should be seen as a criminal offence.

And let’s all remember that the early 20th century eugenicists believed they were doing the right thing and working towards some positive social future.

Just because a movement is certain it represents social progress toward some better world, does not mean that it is. Even if they keep shouting about being on ‘the right side of history’.

The eugenicists felt they were most definitely on the right side of history.

Good to know. Thank you for sharing. At least he reminds us of the many dimensions people have. You may agree on one thing but not on the other. Interesting shift.

Mr Justice Hayden, good that the boy had a parent who was sane and a Judge with clarity. So easily could have gone the other way.

So upsetting that poor child

The kindest reading is that she is a sociopath.

This, too.

I think Susie Green's story must have started in very dark times. From watching footage, that family situation was horrible. Volatile, difficult.

God knows how you get to the situation where you're willing to fly your child round the world to get off label drugs and extreme surgery.

What's happened subsequently is more straightforward. Money, power, and plaudits. You've read the comms between Green and the NHS. How did an unqualified IT person get to call the shots in NHS treatment pathways?! Power is heady stuff.

Good for Elon Musk amplifying the impact of gender ideology on children. I think he has stated that he's going to do what he can to stop medical intervention on children.

Oh, and that car in space is so cool. Another one who has bookmarked the website.

She always emphasises her husband's homophobic attitudes. I read / heard nothing from him. It's like she was just bounced into this by her child's father.

If so why was she running Mermaids for years?
Then there is the chilling video of Susie and her mum laughing about her son's penis being too small to turn into a neo - vagina. After years of puberty blockers and hormones it was a little boy's penis you see. Hilarious.

The kindest reading is that she is a sociopath.

But it’s the Telegraph, which is almost the The Daily Mail or Express

Actually no it isn't.

Agree.

Frankly I'm a bit pissed off about quick people are to judge non NT people.

Aside from this, his access to starlink for Ukraine was/is instrumental in fighting Russian aggression.

He's not perfect - who is?

But when you look at his actions on balance he's done a lot of good.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4960080/Transgender-charity-banned-contacting-family.html

Quite how Mermaids were not subject to a full investigation after this I'll never know.

@SunnyEgg her little 4 year old boy liked to play with a dolls and liked long hair...I just want to cry for that little boy.

You’re right I need a stronger phrase, I can’t think of the words but my god

You want to do that to your own son? Fine.

I don’t think it’s fine to do this to your own children at all. They’re not toys to be played with, they’re human beings!

I have no idea who these people are but what you’ve written sounds like a nightmare

Susie Green had a male child whom she allowed to go on hormones to make him a girl when he was a young teenager. She took them to Thailand on their 16th birthday for “reassignment surgery” (i.e. the removal of the child’s penis, testicles, scrotum etc and, presumably, the creation of a false vagina). If I remember correctly, the Thai authorities were so horrified that they changed their laws to prevent this happening again to so young a person.

Susie Green went on to become CEO of Mermaids, the charity supporting children with gender issues and, according to recent press (given that Susie left/was sacked from Mermaids, which is now under investigation by the Charity Commission) she held undue influence over clinicians at the Tavistock Clinic, including over-riding the referral of children whose GPS had refused it, which was particularly problematic when you consider that she had no clinical experience or qualifications at all (IIRC, she’d previously worked in IT).

“Nightmare” just about scratches the surface.

It is @QueenHippolyta I cannot conceive anyone doing that to their child and to loathe a child for not adhering to outdated sexist stereotypes is fucking awful. Any husband doing/saying that should have been ditched, the answer was not to do what they did to their child, I honestly don't know how they live with themselves.

I have no idea who these people are but what you’ve written sounds like a nightmare

All because Susie Green's husband loathed his little effeminate son, so they castrated him.

This is the most vile social movement since eugenics in the early 20th century

personally I’d say that a global movement which seeks to define women using cultural stereotypes and allow men to push their boundaries with impunity is a very relevant thing to bring up in an interview with a feminist author

Quite. Particularly when the author in question has made statements, signed letters and involved themselves in the issue.

I think our friend only wanted a puff piece which blew smoke up the arse of Attwood.

When JKR is interviewed it won't only focus on her work as an author, nor should it and the TRAs would scream blue murder if it didn't.

It's validation isn't it, the more parents she can convince to the same to their children the easier it is for her to convince herself that she was right - using other parents and their children as pawns for her own self righteousness, pretty despicable if you ask me and yes she should be in prison.

What motivates this woman??

it's got to be the right thing to do hasn't it? otherwise what the hell did she do to her son

it's like a horror film, her trying to get other parents to do that to their children

Her fervour never fails to shock me.

You want to do that to your own son? Fine.

But why the 100mph to do it to as many kids as possible?
What motivates this woman??