Wanna read some garbled bullshit on the BBC news website?

After a little light Googling I have found that Janelle uses both 'they' and 'she'.

Or did when thd various stories were published, latest June 2023.

She is non-binary and the BBC, woke as fuck, managed to misgender her throughout their entire article.

I still don't understand how a 'non-binary person' can be voted/accept an award for a 'Woman of the Year' award? HOW?!!?!? If JM is NB then surely they wouldn't have wanted to have anything to do with a 'Woman of the Year' award? I just don't get it. I feel old...

Didn’t read the article, but saw the photos - not playing up to gender stereotypes at all then JM?! Definitely just a case of LOOK AT ME, I’M SPESSSSHUL,

Monaé, who identifies as non-binary,

Yet they use she/her throughout. Make it make sense.

My quotes included the actual caption at the bottom of the photo that they'd used on their piece. So not sure if it's the Beeb mis-gendering or the reporter not believing the person to be NB?

"She"? Is the BBC misgendering Janelle or does its "reporter" just not believe the artiste is genuinely NB?

Hurrah! I didn't know about the suits thing. I'm non binary now as I'm wearing men's work trousers AND no make up. That means that I'm super special and you've all got to give me lots of attention. I am now not a fairly ordinary middle aged woman,but a queer freedom fighter!
Who knew it could be so easy,eh?

I've just read a Beeb article about 'woman of the year' awards (never knew there was such a thing) and came across a photo of Janelle at the awards with the caption "Grammy-nominated singer Janelle Monae said she was honoured to receive the musician award as a non-binary person"

How can a non-binary person receive/accept an award for a woman? Sorry if I come across thick but genuine question as I'm a bit confused because I thought a non-binary person believed that they were neither male or female?

Of course she's NB. Of course. Cos then you can wear whatever the Eff you like AND get virtue signalling points.

Which is a shame really because how nice would it be to have a strong woman, black too, being bisexual and proud? Or even lesbian and proud? And by proud, I mean out, and just making good music, without focussing on her identity, other than for publicity shots - the underlying intentions of which we are left to guess?

But no, the men running the music industry (and it is primarily men) let the artists waffle in about gender ID and then arrange shoots where they're hypersexualised, instead of ultrasexualised (aka Pussy Cat Dolls).

Which makes me wonder why there's not yet a "they band"...

The other thing about Monae is that this is completely standard libfem stuff. Liberation through sexy.

Nothing more than that.

Oh dear, you may be right - he's gone back down the rabbit hole.

Which is annoying, because in that interview he's quite open about the fact that he's autogynephilic and it's all sexually motivated. He even states towards the end that trans itself is all a sham, although he is obviously speaking from personal experience, but some of the comments underneath the video from de-transitioners back this up.

Love her music. Don't usually look up to pop stars for moral guidance, because, well ...

James/Lisa can’t make up their mind. They seem quite troubled.

*For the record, I have formally renounced my previous ties and allegiance to radical and gender-critical feminists, conservatives, and faith-based groups." Shortly after in 2022, she received a legal name change to "Elisa Rae Shupe". In March 2023, Shupe leaked over 2600 pages of emails, spanning a period from 2017 to 2023, between her and a group of what Mother Jones calls "representatives of a network of activists and organizations at the forefront of the anti-trans movement".

Or for people who think they’re progressive but are actually so conservative they can’t conceive of women doing ‘man things’ so need a special not-a-woman identity. That’s not a dig at Janelle, but a general comment about Americans in particular, many of whom are still in thrall to regressive ideas about gender.

I used to like JM, but this pansexual non-binary crap makes her sound so cringeworthy.

What I want to know is : what goes on at the parties?is it like Gore Vidal’s ‘Caligula’?

Asking for a friend 😜

She’s floating free now she’s realised she’s enby…tedious and self absorbed.

Non binary is a load of bullshit for attention seekers and people who want to be considered special.

Here is an interview with James Shupe - the first person in the US to be legally counted as non-binary, and even he now says it is bullshit.
He also admits that he is actually an autogynephillic male (and furthermore that it is driven by a sexual component).

Yip, I have Diane Keaton on the phone and she wants a word 😍

But "understanding that I'm now non-binary freed me up," she continued.

She was stiff and boring in the Glass Onion, which was a silly film. So not freed up there.

People seem so dull these days despite all the infinite possibilities.

Social media sucks the life out every thing with it's ubiquity.

OK, so despite following the general debate on the alphabet soup, I still have no idea what non-binary is. Or queer, for that matter. I too read the article and thought, eh? what?

Does "queer" mean "disappointed by being relatively overlooked"?

She's not even a "tom boy" or particularly androgynous in her presentation. She is a typical female popstar presenting in a stereotypical hyper-feminine way.

I seem to recall she wore a suit for a bit? And suits are for men? Hence PROVING YOU COMPLETELY WRONG

She says that being out as non-binary makes her music better.

I can imagine it makes the reception of her music better and people are probably fawning around her and praising her more now that she's out as non-binary, but it's interesting that she says, presumably in earnest, that she believes the music is objectively better as a result.