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LGBTQ etc revised flag.

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Moomoola · 04/06/2023 08:22

I looked for an explanation of the new V shape and circle.
im surprised that the V has black and brown stripes which represent ‘people of colour’, but no white stripe.
to me this suggests that the flag is designed by white people..who are graciously including ‘people of colour’ as being allowed in the gang.

apologies for the bad explanation! But isn’t this a bit batshit/ awful?

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literallyarabbit · 04/06/2023 14:13

ApocalipstickNow · 04/06/2023 14:10

Where’s the bit for vegans?

They don't need anything as they're always the first to pipe up that they're vegan!

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 14:11

ApocalipstickNow · 04/06/2023 14:10

Where’s the bit for vegans?

Vegan pride flag

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ApocalipstickNow · 04/06/2023 14:11

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 14:06

Disability pride flag can't seem to reach a universal agreed standard.

It's all to include more people to get them to feel included therefore support the aims of an organisation that actually won't be helping you at all if you aren't TQ.On

And obviously of course to make money.

Some of that is exclusionary towards hidden disabilities.

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 14:10

And let's not forget the most icky of Pride flags the MAP pride flag

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LGBTQ etc revised flag.
ApocalipstickNow · 04/06/2023 14:10

Where’s the bit for vegans?

literallyarabbit · 04/06/2023 14:08

MagpiePi · 04/06/2023 08:36

I thought ‘intersex’ people didn’t want to be included in all this nonsense.

I thought that was outdated and DSD was the correct terminology.

This flag just needs to be burnt.

Sigh.

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 14:06

Disability pride flag can't seem to reach a universal agreed standard.

It's all to include more people to get them to feel included therefore support the aims of an organisation that actually won't be helping you at all if you aren't TQ.On

And obviously of course to make money.

LGBTQ etc revised flag.
nilsmousehammer · 04/06/2023 14:06

vicaragechristmas · 04/06/2023 13:29

The intersex symbol was added to the progress flag by an intersex designer.

Not sure why everyone is calling this new, it’s been around for ages.

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Ah. Thanks for the info.

A bit more of the 'yes a lot of the community don't agree or want the political stuff being pushed on them, or agree that they share in that representation rather than find it unhelpful/offensive, but I'm still gonna do it anyway and claim it represents everyone' thing, like lesbians deal with. Which again makes it a flag of a political group with their politics in common and not a flag representative of those communities since they just ignore and exclude the members not politically compliant.

It's been destruction added to at this point and just needs ditching.

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 14:03

Sex workers pride flag 👇🙄

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Hamfish · 04/06/2023 13:31

It’s really small on my screen and I read ‘intersex’ as ‘intense people’ and things are so bonkers these days I just went with it.

vicaragechristmas · 04/06/2023 13:29

Hagosaurus · 04/06/2023 13:20

I thought that people with DSD had asked to be left out of the alphabet etc? Don’t suppose they were asked either

The intersex symbol was added to the progress flag by an intersex designer.

Not sure why everyone is calling this new, it’s been around for ages.

Hagosaurus · 04/06/2023 13:20

I thought that people with DSD had asked to be left out of the alphabet etc? Don’t suppose they were asked either

ArabeIIaScott · 04/06/2023 13:04

Moomoola · 04/06/2023 08:22

I looked for an explanation of the new V shape and circle.
im surprised that the V has black and brown stripes which represent ‘people of colour’, but no white stripe.
to me this suggests that the flag is designed by white people..who are graciously including ‘people of colour’ as being allowed in the gang.

apologies for the bad explanation! But isn’t this a bit batshit/ awful?

Yes, quite right. It's implying that the 'rainbow' as was was exclusively for white people. Which is nonsensical bullshit. It's like a head pat, really, 'we'll give you your very own stripe', while implying whiteness remains the larger part of the flag. Good spot.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 04/06/2023 11:44

Why is there a new flag?

Because the new one is harder to make certain dubious symbols out of when you have four flags and arrange them in a certain way.

OldGardinia · 04/06/2023 10:49

PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 09:29

I did a flag discussion not too long ago on here asking what the gender critical LGBTQ flag was/would be.

Someone shared a photo of the flag with the pink blue brown black triangle cut off. I like this idea, accept it will likely be seen as offensive, but I have a right to express my beliefs too.

Trans is not a sexual orientation unless it's autogeniphilia. Even the I would argue it's a fetish not an orientation.

Race is not a sexual orientation

Pride is for LGB.

👍

nilsmousehammer · 04/06/2023 10:35

Yes, the march across taking over the rainbow is a bit of a giveaway.

As a grownup homosexual I've just got to the point of thinking flags are horrifically naff and its just yet another way of recreating self in avatar. Like making endless bloody mood boards and then inflicting them on others.

NonHypotheticalLurkingParent · 04/06/2023 10:17

To me it looks like one of the arrows on WW2 invasion maps.

Each year a new colour will be added to the flag and finally the old horizontal striped flag will be obliterated.

strawberryicecream6464 · 04/06/2023 09:36

@MagpiePi
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PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 09:30

ApocalipstickNow · 04/06/2023 09:24

It’ll be neuro diversity first.

Good shout!

PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 09:29

I did a flag discussion not too long ago on here asking what the gender critical LGBTQ flag was/would be.

Someone shared a photo of the flag with the pink blue brown black triangle cut off. I like this idea, accept it will likely be seen as offensive, but I have a right to express my beliefs too.

Trans is not a sexual orientation unless it's autogeniphilia. Even the I would argue it's a fetish not an orientation.

Race is not a sexual orientation

Pride is for LGB.

Cherryblossoms85 · 04/06/2023 09:27

The old flag was nice. This just seems like victim top trumps.

ApocalipstickNow · 04/06/2023 09:24

It’ll be neuro diversity first.

PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 09:23

@IncomingTraffic

"Are they going to stick on a disability stripe/chevron next? After all, I’m sure disability discrimination is also an issue they’d like to pretend to address."

I would put money on that being next year's adaptation.

One day I fear it will have an age stripe ushered in for older people but applied for the younger end

IncomingTraffic · 04/06/2023 08:59

DaisyWaldron · 04/06/2023 08:47

The black and brown stripes were introduced in the Philadelphia "More Colour More Pride" as a result of protests from Black and Latine activists about racism within the local LGBTQ+ community.

https://www.inquirer.com/philly-tips/philadelphia-pride-flag-20210612.html

The problem is that the insisting that each colour represents one of the elements of many letters community (so we must add a colour for asexual people etc) is that it misses the point that people of all races and ethnicities can be LBG.

And that making superficial changes to a flag is a tokenistic response to issues of racism in the LBG community. Well you have a couple of stripes now, what are you complaining about?

Are they going to stick on a disability stripe/chevron next? After all, I’m sure disability discrimination is also an issue they’d like to pretend to address.

NutellaEllaElla · 04/06/2023 08:57

Isn't it interesting that the black and brown colours apparently came around in response to racism within the LGBT community (a much easier target), rather than the increased prejudice against gay people in black and brown communities.

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