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Countering trans suicide figures

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Walkingtheplank · 03/06/2023 08:19

DD asked I'd we could talk about trans issues/female rights yesterday. All very calm but ultimately we disagree on key points.

She raised the point that trans teens are more like to (try to) commit suicide.

Can anyone add a link here to a article explaining why this is not true so that I can share it with her?

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Clymene · 03/06/2023 08:30

In adults, suicide attempts/suicidal ideation rates are substantially higher after transitioning than before.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5436370/

Countering trans suicide figures
landOFconfusion · 03/06/2023 08:29

Walkingtheplank · 03/06/2023 08:19

DD asked I'd we could talk about trans issues/female rights yesterday. All very calm but ultimately we disagree on key points.

She raised the point that trans teens are more like to (try to) commit suicide.

Can anyone add a link here to a article explaining why this is not true so that I can share it with her?

If you believe something without having evidence for that belief then your belief is based on faith, not facts.

SD1978 · 03/06/2023 08:26

And as @HairyKitty pointed out- there is still significant numbers of self harm, suicide attempts in transitioned young people- so if it's all about recognition and being authentic- then why are these young people still suicidal despite being recognised and lauded for their stunning and brave transitions?

SD1978 · 03/06/2023 08:24

It is 'true' but there's also causation versus correlation to consider. These are kids who have significant emotional concerns, often other issues underlying- bullying, marginalisation, etc. same as I'd assume that other marginalised groups have a high rate of self harm/ suicide attempts- from my youth the goth group springs to mind.

HairyKitty · 03/06/2023 08:23

Or equally, evidence that hormonal and medical transitioning doesn’t improve suicide rates. If trans young people are indeed more likely to commit suicide that doesn’t necessarily mean that full transitioning is the solution to that problem (which would be completely obvious in any other area).

dreamingoaholiday · 03/06/2023 08:23

Not exactly what you're after as it's not an easily digestible article, but loads of information here, to help arm yourself with:

Transgender Trend's page on suicide:

https://www.transgendertrend.com/the-suicide-myth/

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