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Insurrection in the toilets

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Wasityou · 02/06/2023 18:33

Popped to the loo in a supermarket earlier and THIS greeted me when I closed the door.

Not that I condone graffiti, but can't help admiring the woman who felt compelled to write that.

Insurrection in the toilets
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OldGardinia · 04/06/2023 16:07

PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 14:13

I agree with youbif setting up an organisation or charity. Something like LGBA needs to focus on what they do represent not what they don't or it's just a hate group which is wrong. But I think I'm written language and particularly if we are talking stickers and graffiti where there is only a sentence or two the crossing out would be most effective to highlight an important point. I think his because gender ideology and 'trans rights' has a habit of piggybacking and then co-opting other movements and charities etc. we need the clear message we see and reject the piggybacking

What PB said. 👆👆👆 Pick which you want based on context and need. But I will definitely be using LGB TQ for some of my purposes.

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 14:28

I want this on a sticker

Insurrection in the toilets
PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 14:13

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/06/2023 13:54

The crossing out feels negative to me

I prefer the LGBA approach of picking what you do represent and just saying that

I agree with youbif setting up an organisation or charity. Something like LGBA needs to focus on what they do represent not what they don't or it's just a hate group which is wrong. But I think I'm written language and particularly if we are talking stickers and graffiti where there is only a sentence or two the crossing out would be most effective to highlight an important point. I think his because gender ideology and 'trans rights' has a habit of piggybacking and then co-opting other movements and charities etc. we need the clear message we see and reject the piggybacking

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 04/06/2023 13:58

Kendodd · 02/06/2023 21:05

My graffiti would be on the wall above the toilet and would say -
If you are reading this while peeing, you're in the wrong loo. 🙂

I may steal this idea

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 13:58

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/06/2023 13:54

The crossing out feels negative to me

I prefer the LGBA approach of picking what you do represent and just saying that

But for stickers where you need something short and quick that catches the eye. Even if you don't have chance to stop and look at it properly you know the sticker person disagrees with the teaming of LGB and TQ.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 04/06/2023 13:57

Bloody love it Grin

YouJustDoYou · 04/06/2023 13:54

"No we don't want your penis! SHOCK HORROR, I know"

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/06/2023 13:54

The crossing out feels negative to me

I prefer the LGBA approach of picking what you do represent and just saying that

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 13:53

YetAnotherSpartacus · 04/06/2023 13:46

The crossed out version looks like the B is crossed out too.

Could leave a gap

LGB TQ

Boiledbeetle · 04/06/2023 13:52

@OldGardinia like it!

LGBTQ

YetAnotherSpartacus · 04/06/2023 13:46

The crossed out version looks like the B is crossed out too.

TerfIslandResident · 04/06/2023 13:45

Naebotherhen · 04/06/2023 13:41

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Naebotherhen · 04/06/2023 13:41

ArabeIIaScott · 04/06/2023 07:24

Capital city of said island!

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PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 12:39

I agree. Simply omitting the TQ may read as separating gender from sexual orientation to some but many will just assume it's old fashioned or lazy cant be bothered to type out all the letters. Like we see LGBT often instead of LGBTQIA+. If you actually cross out TQ it's a very quick clear message

RoyalCorgi · 04/06/2023 12:19

AutumnCrow · 03/06/2023 20:37

Aye, but honi soit qui mal y pense

Excellent, Autumn. That's another thing I like about our side - we're both much cleverer and much funnier than the opposition.

OldGardinia · 04/06/2023 10:31

ArabeIIaScott · 04/06/2023 09:42

I'm not sure about the crossing out. I think using LGB alone is simple and elegant and works very well. This is the strength of the LGB alliance.

LGB Alliance are great and are attempting to do the same as I am. LGBTQ is more visible than simply omitting letters. If someone wishes to actively push back on the idea that T should piggy back on the gay rights social movement, I think you need something a bit more assertive to penetrate in the public mind. Remember there are a lot of people that still think you are "born trans" and that it's a natural bedfellow of LGB.

Nothing stops people from also just omitting the letters if they want something less confrontational. Same goal, different tones. But I believe many of us are at the point that we think active counter-messaging is something we need, something showing regular public that actual LGB are not on board with the entryism of the trans movement. I'm also old enough that I've never really stopped thinking of "queer" as a slur, fwiw.

CrazyArmadilloLady · 04/06/2023 10:26

Thank you for your post @OldGardinia - so many lightbulbs turning on.

CandidaAlbicans2 · 04/06/2023 09:59

Beautifully put @OldGardinia 😎

Loving the stickered Eddie Izzard @OhYeahDefinitely 😆

OhYeahDefinitely · 04/06/2023 09:44

Somebody stuck an adult human female sticker over Eddie Izzard’s face on a poster advertising his theatre show (On the tube). Wanted to take a pic but the tube was packed and I felt conspicuous.

Put a smile on my face.

ArabeIIaScott · 04/06/2023 09:42

I'm not sure about the crossing out. I think using LGB alone is simple and elegant and works very well. This is the strength of the LGB alliance.

CandidaAlbicans2 · 04/06/2023 09:42

Waitwhat23 · 04/06/2023 08:58

The best stickers I've seen with facts/ statistics etc are from here -

wildwomynworkshop.com/category-product/sticker/activist-sticker-packs/

Perfect, just what I was looking for! Thank you! 😃

ArabeIIaScott · 04/06/2023 09:41

I look forward to that essay, Old Gardinia!

OldGardinia · 04/06/2023 09:19

PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 09:17

Yes thank you @OldGardinia very good post.

I will be adopting use of LGBTQ from now on. Very clear message in that

Thank you everybody for the encouragement. I'm not on Twitter. Well, I was suspended about four years ago for a post which said "trans in adolescent girls correlates with autism".

Maybe I'll re-register and I'll see if I can write something up.

I singled out the post above to reply to because I really appreciate someone also picking up the LGBTQ thing. I think it might have some mileage in it.

PurpleBugz · 04/06/2023 09:17

Yes thank you @OldGardinia very good post.

I will be adopting use of LGBTQ from now on. Very clear message in that

FrancescaContini · 04/06/2023 09:08

Great post, @OldGardinia , thank you - particularly for the Orwell quotes.

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