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"I don't give a shit about the scientific explanations. If they identify as a women, they get to compete in sports"

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EdgeOfACoin · 29/05/2023 07:17

Emma Vigeland, presenter on The Majority Report, a "progressive" internet talk radio programme and podcast, has made it crystal clear that gender identity trumps fairness when it comes to sport.

Unfortunately I'm not tech savvy enough to clip the relevant section from the show directly, but plenty of other have, including Triggernometry presenter Konstantin Kisin, who Tweeted about it. You can see the video on his Twitter page:

https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1662390264005120001?t=3-gYh1LvSAt93Fh1N68boA&s=19

Emma has not backed down from her comments and has since mocked "terfs" for being "triggered" by her, declaring that "gender affirming care" for minors would solve all of the problems anyway:

https://twitter.com/EmmaVigeland/status/1662491715352010752

Emma has unequivocally declared that she is right on this issue.

Fascinating to see any pretence that the subject is "complicated" has gone - no, if a person with a penis wants to compete in women's sports, then that takes priority over everything else, including fairness.

As a side note, she used to be a presenter on The Young Turks and made a (very) half-hearted attempt to defend her former colleague Ana Kasparian last month after Ana lost patience with being referred to as a "birthing person". (Interestingly, Ana hasn't retreated from her own comments either.)

https://twitter.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1662390264005120001?s=19&t=3-gYh1LvSAt93Fh1N68boA

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piedbeauty · 29/05/2023 07:44

What a bellend Emma is, shutting down debate like this.

sashagabadon · 29/05/2023 07:33

At least we know. It’s a choice that sports have to make. Inclusion ( exclusion for females) OR fairness, safety.
no more pretending that it can be tweaked here and there or we haven’t done enough studies.
I think she also said that if female sports weren’t inclusive then they might as well not exist.
a hard position to justify and obviously extreme but I guess an argument she is allowed to make and everyone else can ignore

WarriorN · 29/05/2023 07:30

She's a sexist patriarch.

waterlego · 29/05/2023 07:26

Wow. Stupid and angry.

As you say, it’s interesting to see a move away from ‘it’s complicated’ or ‘let’s wait for more evidence’ to just ‘Science can fuck off. Yes, it might not be fair but I don’t care’

PurpleBugz · 29/05/2023 07:23

I saw that clip. It was so angry. I would expect women to react like that after being pushed and pushed and pushed and for it to be personally defensive. This is such a male reaction. I don't agree so I'm going to shout and swear

EdgeOfACoin · 29/05/2023 07:18

Sorry, obviously the title should read "woman" not "women" - that's on me, not Emma!

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