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Irish consultation on Referendums on Family, Care and Gender Equality - urgent! Deadline 19 May

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AinmÁlainn · 18/05/2023 21:26

https://www.gov.ie/en/consultation/a2e11-referendums-on-family-care-and-gender-equality-request-for-submissions/#

@Camillasfagwrinkles Kindly posted this on Craicnet where I came across it for the first time. If anyone is interested in contributing, link is above, deadline 12 noon on Friday 19 May.

https://gript.ie/why-you-should-reply-to-the-public-consultation-on-equality/ Article that may be useful if (like me) you're struggling to gather your thoughts quickly.

Referendums on Family, Care and Gender Equality – request for submissions

https://www.gov.ie/en/consultation/a2e11-referendums-on-family-care-and-gender-equality-request-for-submissions#

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miri1985 · 19/05/2023 03:24

I find these consultations so frustrating, the Government pretends to take them into account if they get the responses they want and then ignores them if they don't. Its so disrespectful of peoples time and opinions, don't have a consultation if you don't want to hear contrary opinions

They're supposed to have the wording of this referendum out by next month to the electoral commission and the Government are supposed to already have agreed it mid-May according to their own timetable. https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/534bb-taoiseach-and-minister-ogorman-announce-holding-of-referendum-on-gender-equality/

Taoiseach and Minister O’Gorman announce holding of referendum on gender equality

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/534bb-taoiseach-and-minister-ogorman-announce-holding-of-referendum-on-gender-equality

honeyrider · 19/05/2023 00:14

Thanks for sharing, email sent.

AinmÁlainn · 18/05/2023 23:18

@SealHouse ,my submission was similar.

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DumDeeDoh · 18/05/2023 23:05

I have sent my objections. Ffs

IwantToRetire · 18/05/2023 22:19

I cant believe this is true - but if so scandalous behaviour by Irish Government.

By sneaking in Self ID on the back of the Marriage Equality bill, the Irish government tarnished that important vote. Don’t let them do their dirty deeds in the dark again.
https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/pulling-another-fast-one

Not saying its better, but Glinner link also has draft letter for inspiration.

But also important to get this deadline information out.

Unless there is a way to challenge the consultation not being properly advertised.

Pulling another fast one

Time is running out for Irish people to make their voices heard in the gender equality consultation in Ireland. That’s because today is the first time most of the Irish public have heard about it. The deadline for submissions is quickly approaching – 1...

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/pulling-another-fast-one

SealHouse · 18/05/2023 22:03

I'm thinking of sending this....

I am opposed to the proposed amendment of the Constitution to include a reference to 'gender equality'.

Article 40 of the Constitution states "All citizens shall, as human persons, be held equal before the law."

This is a simple, clear and unambiguous statement. The Constitution already protects all citizens equally. No one is excluded or discriminated against in the Constitution and thus the establishment of a specific category of person by reference to 'gender' is unnecessary and superfluous.

Gender ideology, which says that a person’s ‘gender’ can differ from their biological sex, is a belief. It is not based in science. It is an unproven theory. In a democratic society where there are many different beliefs, the law must be based on incontrovertible facts and not on any one minority belief system. Gender ideology has no place in our constitution.

I am concerned about the potential consequences of the proposed inclusion of gender ideology in our constitution, in particular the potential for the further erosion of women's sex-based rights, the right to single sex spaces, and also the threat to the safeguarding of children who may be particularly vulnerable to the influence of gender ideology.