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Local elections and GC feminism thread

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JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 03/05/2023 16:33

Hi, just thought I'd start a thread as have seen threads recently about campaigning but not about the actual elections.

I live in a Tory-controlled area which has recently been in the news for bad mismanagement and Lab and LDs snapping at their heels here in different council seats. I don't necessarily want the Tories in but also worried now about the impact on local women's services if anyone else gets in - we currently have good council-run leisure facilities with clearly sex-segregated changing and a local SARC that is female-only.

I am worried these things will be lost.

How is everyone feeling/ voting as we move into Thurs?

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Abra1t · 04/05/2023 19:37

OneSugar1 · 04/05/2023 19:13

What happens to spoiled ballots? Does anyone read them?

I count votes and I read them.

Obviously I do not break the rules of ballot box confidentiality but I do smile to myself.

More than one person can look at a ballot paper so you may have a little audience at the count.

AutisticLegoLover · 04/05/2023 19:32

@KetoKitt I felt the same but decided to go and spoilt my ballot. Took ages as there were 3 candidates for each of the main parties plus a green and an independent. The independent has offered me the chance to chat further with him but I really can't be bothered educating him. I've given him enough to go on so he can go and do his own research. I live in a Tory seat nationally but the local council is a Labour/lib dem team effort of sorts. Local councillors are all Lib Dem and ours is an odious, obsequious, misogynistic bully. I don't like him.

KetoKitt · 04/05/2023 19:27

I can't decide whether to go spoil my ballot or just not go. I'm tired and disenchanted with it all.

SweetSakura · 04/05/2023 19:24

OneSugar1 · 04/05/2023 19:13

What happens to spoiled ballots? Does anyone read them?

Essentially no. They won't get read other than to ascertain whether there is a valid vote or not. They are checked by the elections team and candidates or their agents can watch the process.

So writing an essay is a waste of time. (I am very much gender critical for the avoidance of doubt, just don't want people wasting effort where it won't have any impact)

lemonyellows · 04/05/2023 19:21

Wouldn't it be great if you could add an explanation of why you voted the way you did. They would all get a better insight of the voting public.

KCandtheSunlightBand · 04/05/2023 19:15

Badgeringabout
You are right, of course I can’t, I’m sitting here torn between spoiling my paper and voting Labour, because there has never been such a fantastic chance to elect some Labour councillors, in a totally blue area, but I simply cannot trust them.😢

OneSugar1 · 04/05/2023 19:13

What happens to spoiled ballots? Does anyone read them?

WhiteFire · 04/05/2023 19:12

I know there can be bad apples all over, but ultimately you are still dealing with an individual and their own opinions. He was a very dodgy character and is thankfully gone.

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/mayor-quizzed-gender-neutral-toilets-16437625

I cast one vote for labour and one for LD's (get 2). I know local elections are used to give a forecast for a GE but I voted on who I felt was the best option locally. A vote for them is a vote against the dipsticks.

Mayor to be quizzed on gender neutral toilets

Cllr Dave Smith is calling for the town to become gender-neutral and wants all council building toilets to become gender-neutral to start with

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/mayor-quizzed-gender-neutral-toilets-16437625

Lovecleansheets · 04/05/2023 19:05

Hello fellow GCers, back from the polling booth where my black Sharpie came in very useful on the ballot paper. I wrote a short essay on the importance of single sex spaces to women.
Have not voted Tory ever but it will happen at the General Election if Mere Starmer doesn’t do a U turn on some women have willies. Wanker.

SweetSakura · 04/05/2023 19:04

Mumoftwoinprimary · 04/05/2023 07:48

I’ve decided. I’m spoiling.

But how? I want them to know why.

Was thinking of writing “Lifelong Labour / Lib Dem voter but neither party is able to define what a woman is”.

Noone really reads them though, so I wouldn't waste much time agonising over what you write

Badgeringabout · 04/05/2023 19:02

I wouldn't be too sure that your Green is GC as it's practically a hanging offence in that party.

WarriorN · 04/05/2023 19:01

Feel confident the local geen is GC. No idea about the Lib Dem but is v good on local issues. Doubt knows much about it.

WarriorN · 04/05/2023 18:59

I had sent mine in before I knew there was an extremely misogynistic tra trans identified male who has been harassing a local feminist who is vocal about her feminist activism on the list. For labour.

I wish I'd spoilt it and written a few comments.

those eligible to vote in our house went with Lib Dem or green.

Badgeringabout · 04/05/2023 18:58

He couldn’t define what a woman is

Right there is why you cannot vote for him surely?

ILoveToSquanderPromise · 04/05/2023 18:54

I wrote on my ballot. Who knows if any of the buggers will read it or care but I wasn't going to let it lie.

KCandtheSunlightBand · 04/05/2023 18:47

Help, What do I do now?

My local Labour candidate has been round, to see if I have voted. ( I have not). Said I couldn’t bring myself to vote Labour, he asked why, and he got it, both barrels. He couldn’t define what a woman is, but said that he is in total agreement, that women need safe spaces and those spaces should be free of men and Trans women.

I asked if he is going to push that up through the party, that ‘our leader’ needs to know that ‘99.9% of women don’t have a penis’ comment is unacceptable. He said he will do what he can do at a local level.

I was already to spoil my ballot paper, bugger!

DobbysTeaCosy · 04/05/2023 18:12

NeverTrustAPoliceman · 04/05/2023 17:52

The people at the polling station must have wondered why it took me so long to "vote". I wrote a couple of sentences against each of the four candidates, giving my reasons for not getting my X. Even if only one person reads it and thinks for a moment it will have been worth it.

Yes I had this, voting booths in full sight so no hiding my sticker and additions so they will be able to figure out where the terf lives. Good thing they were older women but likely they'll be bemused

NeverTrustAPoliceman · 04/05/2023 17:52

The people at the polling station must have wondered why it took me so long to "vote". I wrote a couple of sentences against each of the four candidates, giving my reasons for not getting my X. Even if only one person reads it and thinks for a moment it will have been worth it.

Mycatwantsmedead · 04/05/2023 17:35

What I don’t understand is that none of these candidates do anything but shove a leaflet through your letterbox, but still expect you to turn up and vote tribally.

It’s only the Indy candidates who make the effort which I appreciate. If they had given the right answers on sex and gender they would get my vote no question.

dimorphism · 04/05/2023 16:43

I voted Tory. They're the only ones who have the slightest grip on reality for women.

I don't really understand why people think a party where everyone either doesn't understand the basic science about men and women or is too scared to state the bloody obvious would do a good job with anything else. Having a grip on reality should be the bare minimum for elected representatives. Thinking men are women if they just say so fails that test.

As I said on another thread - I have zero confidence they wouldn't just 'identify' as having fixed the NHS. If you can think that's a realistic option for a sex change then anything is possible.

TooBigForMyBoots · 04/05/2023 16:23

astrowars · 04/05/2023 15:20

Anyone got any short and to the point messages to write on my ballot paper? Only have labour or conservative to vote for and can't vote for either as a GC NHS worker

If you want my X
Respect my sex.

Badgeringabout · 04/05/2023 16:15

Voted Conservative. I would love to have voted Green but they hate women so...

astrowars · 04/05/2023 15:20

Anyone got any short and to the point messages to write on my ballot paper? Only have labour or conservative to vote for and can't vote for either as a GC NHS worker

Abra1t · 04/05/2023 14:48

Gritting my teeth I voted Libdem as the candidate standing for reelection has a good reputation locally for helping communities in a very productive way.

He is a sensible-looking middle-aged man. It was a difficult decision. I hope he doesn’t disappoint me.

EveryWitchWaybutLoose · 04/05/2023 14:25

I voted Labour because the thought of the Tories was just too much.

But I wish now I had clearly voted Labour, but also spoiled my Bally paper by writing something like “I’m a Labour voter but until you can be clear that a woman is an adult human female, and stop pandering to anti-woman activists, I will spoil my ballot paper, thus depriving you of my vote.”