Edinburgh University are a disgrace

A promising development reported in The Times yesterday: 100 Harvard scholars join group defending free speech from left and right

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6bea32c6-e57c-11ed-a169-35bcc1d1a374?shareToken=717e1a95549f3943ded25d3dcceb0451

The employers need to grow a pair: The Cojones Awards with Bill Mayer https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sma7s2UBH80

I think (hope) not. The tin foil hat gang appear to have massively disproportionate influence in relation to their numbers, but sooner or later a critical mass of people will get sick of spouting utter bullshit and tell these toddlers to get stuffed.

Their employers will be as frightened of them as the Edinburgh university authorities are. Look at publishers today caving in to each and every demand of ‘junior staff’.

I emailed them about this yesterday. Appalled to be an alumni right now and I was so proud of where I was years ago - was involved in some of the initial gender studies stuff there when I was an undergrad.

Luckily I now live elsewhere and none of our dc have shown an interest in going there.

So sad.

I watched it too because I saw it mentioned here on Mumsnet. I used to be one of the ‘be kind’ brigade. Watching the film made me realise our sex based rights are under threat. And I’ve realised it more so now that TRAs are trying to prevent people from watching it.
But hey they’re the most marginalised people in society 🤦‍♀️

On the upside, as a result of seeing a newslink about this protest, I googled the docu and watched it today.

The protestors are creating a news story and publicising this very insightful piece.

And pasting the link into the archive.today website will either bring up an already archived copy or create a new one.

Yes I saw that and ironically laughed.

But on the plus side they are among the first 5 universities who have a branch of the LGB Student Network https://lgballiance.org.uk/student-network/ which upholds the rights of people to define their sexuality in terms of which sex the are attracted to. That's got to be a big plus.

Thanks! That line from the university spokesperson about being disappointed. Once is a disappointment, twice means they know they're getting something wrong. Instead of being disappointed they should do something about it.

if not a subscriber you should be able to access it via this Tweet.

https://twitter.com/kathmurray1/status/1651840937377636353?s=46&t=5tHsrgY5T97exTqeFD4LWg

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/academics-demand-meeting-after-pro-trans-protesters-again-block-film-32n6k7p8c

Ah, thank you! Yes, it's unbelievable. The gall of that man and that uni protecting him! 😡

www.theguardian.com/society/2023/apr/20/the-survivor-who-spoke-out-ellie-wilson-on-the-brutal-reality-of-taking-an-attacker-to-court

@Waitwhat23 WTAF

Appalling

Ellie Wilson. She actually managed to get an audio recording of her rapist admitting that he raped her and he still tried to appeal to the UK Supreme Court - thankfully refused yesterday.

And he commited the rape at Glasgow University and was allowed to transfer to the University of Edinburgh without any sort of safeguarding being put in place to safeguard female students.

The Office for Students is only for English universities - education is devolved. There's no real equivalent I'm afraid.

I can't remember her second name - Ellie something? She is very brave and has spoken about her ordeal and the aftermath. Essentially, her rapist as allowed to continue his studies at Edinburgh Uni - after it was on record as him admitting the sexual assault - as he hadn't been sentenced yet. I couldn't believe they'd put female students at risk from this man! But then again, it's edinburgh uni...

For anyone writing it might be worth also highlighting to the OfS that UoE are not meeting their responsibilities to support free speech https://www.officeforstudents.org.uk/publications/freedom-to-question-challenge-and-debate/#:~:text=Freedom%20of%20speech%3A%20The%20OfS's,within%20their%20universities%20and%20colleges.

i worked at Edinburgh for years and the administration are totally in thrall to a group of loud bullying students and staff pushing this ideology. The Staff Pride network is totally captured and has a disproportionate amount of influence and insert themselves into absolutely everything. The Principal is a weak man who has been told/complained to by female staff time and time again and chooses to ignore/fob them off with insipid ineffectual responses. Worth noting he is a doctor of medicine and I’m sure well aware of what a woman is but just too fearful to stand up for them.

St Andrew’s is a much better bet for those looking at universities in Scotland, or Glasgow - both have their contingent of misogynist bullies in the staff and student body but haven’t allowed them to run riot and lost control in the way Edinburgh has.

Here you go: https://archive.ph/SrhG5

I think it was raised in the Scottish Assembly too. Humza said (I'm paraphrasing), 'tut, but I'm not saying anything to the university though, love ya transpeople'