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Dylan Mulvany and Maybelline

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WhisperingAutistic · 24/04/2023 07:01

twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1650291247787958273?t=NfQhJMOpExHcIArq8jOPjw&s=19

My boycott list is huge.
There are going to be no brands left at this rate.

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Datun · 24/04/2023 11:10

ArabeIIaScott · 24/04/2023 11:04

TBH this is one subject I'm particularly bemused that people come to Mumsnet to berate posters on.

Mulvaney is huge. People are literally shooting things in protest at Mulvaney's antics, this is in mainstream papers, all over the news.

T'isn't really us, at this point. Go shout at some other people.

Personally, I think it's because we're women. Some people just like shouting at women.

Using phrases like 'foaming at the mouth', to criticise women objecting to misogyny?

And equating a $6 billion loss to an 'increase in ad revenue', in an attempt to sound superior?

ArabeIIaScott · 24/04/2023 11:04

TBH this is one subject I'm particularly bemused that people come to Mumsnet to berate posters on.

Mulvaney is huge. People are literally shooting things in protest at Mulvaney's antics, this is in mainstream papers, all over the news.

T'isn't really us, at this point. Go shout at some other people.

ArabeIIaScott · 24/04/2023 11:02

SkyandSurf · 24/04/2023 10:32

Massive Streisand effect happening here with Dylan.

I'd never heard of this person until people on here started foaming at the mouth.

'foaming at the mouth'

ArabeIIaScott · 24/04/2023 11:02

Six billion so far, Datun.

Be interesting to see if the drop in revenue/share price applies across all these various brands. I guess some will be more affected than others.

ArabeIIaScott · 24/04/2023 11:01

Dylan is 100% better at applying make up than I am. So that's fine.

Datun · 24/04/2023 10:52

Seasonofthewitch83 · 24/04/2023 10:47

But people are just spending money on the company's other brands? All these dickhead men SHOOTING beer in anger - not sure that is the side I personally want to align my values with anyway.

Six billion

HisOliveTree · 24/04/2023 10:51

Hoppinggreen · 24/04/2023 07:57

While I think Mulvany is awful and his parodies of women are repulsive Make is worn by any sex/gender so I don’t have much of an issue with this.
The sports bra thing is very different

I don't care what sex someone is, if they want to wear make up that's fine. However, advertising using a male who is an entirely offensive parody of women? No thanks.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 24/04/2023 10:47

Datun · 24/04/2023 10:45

Try telling that to Budweiser's $6 billion loss over their misogynistic advertising.

But people are just spending money on the company's other brands? All these dickhead men SHOOTING beer in anger - not sure that is the side I personally want to align my values with anyway.

Datun · 24/04/2023 10:45

Seasonofthewitch83 · 24/04/2023 10:41

Oh good, another thread about Dylan. I am sure the marketing departments at the brands are appalled at all the ad revenue you are sending their way by getting angry over someone wearing make up.

EYEROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Try telling that to Budweiser's $6 billion loss over their misogynistic advertising.

Seasonofthewitch83 · 24/04/2023 10:41

Oh good, another thread about Dylan. I am sure the marketing departments at the brands are appalled at all the ad revenue you are sending their way by getting angry over someone wearing make up.

EYEROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

SkyandSurf · 24/04/2023 10:32

Massive Streisand effect happening here with Dylan.

I'd never heard of this person until people on here started foaming at the mouth.

Travellingwillow · 24/04/2023 10:24

There's a video of DM on an old US Price is right....🙄...bonkers. If this is what people want to emulate then we need to be switched off and rebooted.

NotAnotherBathBomb · 24/04/2023 10:20

ValuePartnership · 24/04/2023 08:27

Do women really do that thing that DM does in the commercial - sort of double fist shake in the air? Looks kind of male behaviour to me.

I do that in a celebratory way? Confused

It's almost like women are not a homogenous group...

The mental stretches are really coming in with this one.

ickky · 24/04/2023 10:20

Signalbox · 24/04/2023 08:08

Trying to work out what CEI and CSR mean?

Corporate Equality Index & Corporate Social Responsibility.

It's very much like the stonewall champions. Box ticking to get to the top of the list. Which enables funding etc.

https://www.hrc.org/resources/corporate-equality-index

All these companies are on the HRC list.

The 2022 Corporate Equality Index

The HRC Foundation's CEI celebrates its 20th anniversary of being a primary driving force for LGBTQ+ workplace inclusion.

https://www.hrc.org/resources/corporate-equality-index

AngeloMysterioso · 24/04/2023 10:10

Honestly, some people just want to hound Dylan across the internet until she disappears. Its disgusting and bullying behaviour.

If you don't like Dylan, fine. Personally, not my cup of tea either and wouldn't have heard of her if not for people complaining.

The vitriol directed at this young person and the global scale of the relentless criticism and bullying is shameful.

HE is a 26 year old MAN, not some vulnerable teenager- and he’s making money by mocking women.

The whole thing is made up- he made a video about how he wasn’t getting any work so a friend wrote a “femme” role for him- and suddenly he was getting attention again. So he’s just carried on doing that. And it’s working like a charm for him, companies are throwing money and freebies at him, so who gives a fuck about the women he’s insulting??

I’d be alright with him disappearing to be honest.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 24/04/2023 10:10

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MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 24/04/2023 10:07

literalviolence · 24/04/2023 09:48

I'm all up for them using a man to advertise make up. But they need to choose a man who treats his fellow human beings respectfully and Dylan hasn't. Choose a different man. It speaks volumes to choose this one.

Yes, a man - as a man - wearing make up would be absolutely fine.

WhisperingAutistic · 24/04/2023 10:03

Tinysoxx · 24/04/2023 09:59

Even forgetting the gender ideology stuff, the emaciated body and manic-like behaviour would not make me want any person like this to advertise my product. What damage would they do to my brand reputation in the future? They are paying someone who has a very unstable life and health. It’s bizarre and shows that fashion/beauty advertising is very short-term game.

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I can't imagine they would choose an actual woman who looked and behaved in that manner, to represent their brand.

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Tinysoxx · 24/04/2023 09:59

Even forgetting the gender ideology stuff, the emaciated body and manic-like behaviour would not make me want any person like this to advertise my product. What damage would they do to my brand reputation in the future? They are paying someone who has a very unstable life and health. It’s bizarre and shows that fashion/beauty advertising is very short-term game.

literalviolence · 24/04/2023 09:48

I'm all up for them using a man to advertise make up. But they need to choose a man who treats his fellow human beings respectfully and Dylan hasn't. Choose a different man. It speaks volumes to choose this one.

JacquelinePot · 24/04/2023 09:48

ThePoshUns · 24/04/2023 09:10

I dont believe he is trans at all. He's a fame hungry young man desperate for attention. He does nothing to further the cause of genuine trans women with his little girl cos play.

I agree Dylan is fame hungry but on what basis do you think he isn't genuinely "trans"? How are you defining trans? Why doesn't Dylan doesn't fit that definition?

toastandmarmaladeandtea · 24/04/2023 09:46

Laladybird · 24/04/2023 08:29

It's aimed at young girls. The point is to normalise men in their spaces, even in their identities.

This

WhisperingAutistic · 24/04/2023 09:39

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Mrsjayy · 24/04/2023 09:31

ImSweetEnoughDarlin · 24/04/2023 09:26

Then he'll be vrying what a victim he was and how he was pressured into this shit onf OH, His poor mental health.

Well exactly Dylan won't last forever what will happen when someone newer and shinier comes along and Dylan is sidelined ?

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